Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use in OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM

WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com accounts)
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with Hotmail.com accounts0
http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server, very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Ron Sommer" wrote in message ...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to been
changed to the DeltaSync server.

@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx

I'm over it myself. eg


....winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to
been
changed to the DeltaSync server.

@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx

I'm over it myself. eg


....winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to
been
changed to the DeltaSync server.

For work, I would suggest that you setup Hotmail in a new Identity.
A new Identity will let Hotmail use Inbox, Sent Items, Drafts, Deleted
Items.

If you add Hotmail to the current Identity, you can create a message rule to
keep downloaded message out of the Inbox.
Tools, Message Rules, New, Mail, Where the message if form 'specific'
account, Move to 'specific' folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specific' account, select Hotmail.
Click on 'specific' folder, New folder, create a folder.
Sent Items, Drafts, and Deleted Items will be shared with your work account.

Be sure to check Leave a copy on the server, so the Hotmail emails will be
available for your home computer.
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

"Gloria" wrote in message
...
I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I
couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the
instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using
25,
so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed.
Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put
them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can
no
longer be available. I have two questions about that please:
(and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply)
1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a
different
provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which
is
which since two different providers?

2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going
into
my work email folder.
Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my
local
folder???

thanks

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

[crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups]

This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a

Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail
accounts.
This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/
Tuesday, 01 September 2009.

If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will
need
to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the
instructions he


http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

= NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the
Outgoing
mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25!

= After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly
or
after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail
account he Tools | Accounts | Mail.

= When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in
your
inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into
OE.
Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the
Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf.
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
will no longer be available.

Have more questions? See the FAQ page he
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx

Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications
method
(known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV
protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes
such
as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback
led
MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options
were
available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available,
MS
is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com

For work, I would suggest that you setup Hotmail in a new Identity.
A new Identity will let Hotmail use Inbox, Sent Items, Drafts, Deleted
Items.

If you add Hotmail to the current Identity, you can create a message rule to
keep downloaded message out of the Inbox.
Tools, Message Rules, New, Mail, Where the message if form 'specific'
account, Move to 'specific' folder and Stop processing more rules.
Click on 'specific' account, select Hotmail.
Click on 'specific' folder, New folder, create a folder.
Sent Items, Drafts, and Deleted Items will be shared with your work account.

Be sure to check Leave a copy on the server, so the Hotmail emails will be
available for your home computer.
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

"Gloria" wrote in message
...
I am new to all this, pls be patient if I don't word this properly. I
couldn't see how to contact hotmail so I found this page. I followed the
instr from the final notice, didn't see your advise here about not using
25,
so I don't know if I can change it to what you typed.
Also, I see, as you worded below, that it took ALL of my messages and put
them in the local folder and not in my hotmail folder, which you say can
no
longer be available. I have two questions about that please:
(and I hope I can find my way back here to find your reply)
1) all of my emails (994) went into the local folder, which is a
different
provider not hotmail. They all went in as unread, and how do I know which
is
which since two different providers?

2) I also use OE at work. I sure don't want my personal emails going
into
my work email folder.
Do you know how I can/if I can set it up so hotmail doesn't go into my
local
folder???

thanks

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

[crosspost to OE General & OE6 newsgroups]

This message is a follow-up to my post of 02 June 2009:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a7d2d5b76b171a

Microsoft is changing the way Outlook Express users access Hotmail
accounts.
This change will require all Hotmail-in-OE users to take action /before/
Tuesday, 01 September 2009.

If you use Outlook Express to access a Hotmail or MSN account, you will
need
to set up a NEW MAIL ACCOUNT (OE: Tools | Accounts | Add | Mail) per the
instructions he


http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...k-express.aspx

= NOTE: In Step #11 on the above page, select Port 587 in the
Outgoing
mail (SMTP) box, not Port 25!

= After you've gotten the new (POP3) account set-up and working properly
or
after 01 September, you should REMOVE (delete) your old (WebDAV) Hotmail
account he Tools | Accounts | Mail.

= When you access your Hotmail account via POP3, only the messages in
your
inbox on the Hotmail web-page (http://mail.live.com) will download into
OE.
Furthermore, these messages will download into OE's default Inbox and the
Hotmail-specific set of folders you're used to (cf.
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com...403shu01_C.gif)
will no longer be available.

Have more questions? See the FAQ page he
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions...questions.aspx

Need more help? Visit the Hotmail Community Forum:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx

Why is this happening? Outlook Express [uses] a legacy communications
method
(known as the WebDAV protocol) to access Hotmail. Because the WebDAV
protocol is not optimally suited for programs to access large inboxes
such
as Hotmail, new alternatives have been built. Last year, user-feedback
led
MS to postpone plans to retire the WebDAV protocol until more options
were
available. Now that these options (including POP3 access) are available,
MS
is ready to retire the WebDAV protocol.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com

One reason I've come to dislike that forum when posting..
qp
Sorry, there was a problem with your last request!
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize and have logged the error. Please try your request again or
if you know who your site administrator is let them know too.
/qp



--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx

I'm over it myself. eg


...winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to been
changed to the DeltaSync server.

One reason I've come to dislike that forum when posting..
qp
Sorry, there was a problem with your last request!
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize and have logged the error. Please try your request again or
if you know who your site administrator is let them know too.
/qp



--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now: http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx

I'm over it myself. eg


...winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to been
changed to the DeltaSync server.

Tell me about it. You can see how many posts I made today and that happened
to me several times. Soon I'd learned my lesson and started copying my post
to my clipboard before Submitting it. On some occasions when I tried to
repost, I got an "Administrator has disabled multiple posts of the same
message" error. Of course, none of my posts had shown up.


....winston wrote:
One reason I've come to dislike that forum when posting..
qp
Sorry, there was a problem with your last request!
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize
and
have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who
your site administrator is let them know too. /qp




"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx I'm over it myself. eg


...winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use
in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to
been changed to the DeltaSync server.

Tell me about it. You can see how many posts I made today and that happened
to me several times. Soon I'd learned my lesson and started copying my post
to my clipboard before Submitting it. On some occasions when I tried to
repost, I got an "Administrator has disabled multiple posts of the same
message" error. Of course, none of my posts had shown up.


....winston wrote:
One reason I've come to dislike that forum when posting..
qp
Sorry, there was a problem with your last request!
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize
and
have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who
your site administrator is let them know too. /qp




"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx I'm over it myself. eg


...winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use
in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to
been changed to the DeltaSync server.

Have done the same(when I remember to do so)
I also open the pre-reply page in a separate tab in IE so I can see multiple comments in the same thread to minimize my scrolling
in a reply and to see content in addition to that which I'm replying.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message ...
Tell me about it. You can see how many posts I made today and that happened
to me several times. Soon I'd learned my lesson and started copying my post
to my clipboard before Submitting it. On some occasions when I tried to
repost, I got an "Administrator has disabled multiple posts of the same
message" error. Of course, none of my posts had shown up.


...winston wrote:
One reason I've come to dislike that forum when posting..
qp
Sorry, there was a problem with your last request!
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize
and
have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who
your site administrator is let them know too. /qp




"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
...
@winston: Your assistance would be especially welcomed here right now:
http://windowslivehelp.com/community/47.aspx I'm over it myself. eg


...winston wrote:
Ron...to supplement your comments...any of the following may be in use
in
OE or migrated/imported from OE into WLM
WebDAV Servers to be retired in Sept 2009
http://oe.msn.msnmail.hotmail.com/cgi-bin/hmdata (used with Msn.com
accounts) http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp (used with
Hotmail.com accounts0 http://oe.hotmail.com/secure/hmdata (old server,
very rare pre 2002 account creation , used with Hotmail.com accounts)



"Ron Sommer" wrote in message
...

If you imported from Outlook Express, the server was
http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp . That will have to
been changed to the DeltaSync server.