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**Zac Thompson**

"Zac Thompson" wrote in message
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
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NOOR E ALAM wrote:

Hi
I want to use hotmail account e mail using Out lokk express

Perhaps on your next visit you might decide to actually ask a question
and
provide DETAILS.

Cutoff for DAV access to Hotmail ended on September 1, 2009. Microsoft
switched to Deltasync as their HTTP communications protocol to their
webmail
service. E-mail clients that support only DAV for HTTP access will no
longer be able to use it to access Hotmail. Your choices after the
cutoff
a

- Use POP to access your Hotmail account.
- Use a Deltasync-enabled client to see all the folders in your webmail
account for IMAP-like access.
- Use the webmail interface that has always been there even before
Microsoft bought Hotmail.

Also see http://www.howto-outlook.com/news/ho...sforbidden.htm

POP has no concept of folders. It only understands a mailbox where ALL
your
e-mails reside. Because POP doesn't use folders, there are no commands
within the Post Office Protocol to navigate or select folders. It only
has
access to your mailbox. The mailbox that POP can access is the Inbox
folder
you see when using the webmail client to your account.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_office_protocol
http://communication.howstuffworks.com/email.htm
http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/pop_basics.htm
http://email.about.com/cs/standards/a/how_pop_works.htm

Hotmail has never had and still doesn't have IMAP access. IMAP lets you
access other folders in your e-mail account (or, more accurately, those
folders to which you have subscribed). Microsoft has hinted that they
may
make IMAP access possible in the future but no Hotmail user is going to
pend
using their account until if and whenever IMAP access shows up.

The only way to have local access to the non-Inbox folders in your
Hotmail
account is to use Deltasync (DAV support died on 01-SEP-2009). This
protocol makes available all your folders that you defined using either
the
Deltasync-enabled e-mail client (which then replicates that local folder
on
the server) or syncs to those folders you created using the webmail
client.
If you want IMAP-like access to your Hotmail account, you'll need to use
either the webmail client or a local e-mail client that supports
Deltasync,
which a

- Windows Live Mail (replaces Outlook Express and Vista's Windows Mail).
- Outlook 2003/2007 *plus* the Outlook Connector add-on. The add-on
adds Deltasync support since no version of Outlook natively supports
Deltasync. The add-on doesn't work with prior versions of Outlook.
- Use a screen-scraper proxy or e-mail client that tries to navigate the
web pages for the webmail client to Hotmail.

Outlook Express NEVER had support for Deltasync. It is a dead product:
functional development ceased back in 2002, a patch for SP-2 in Windows
XP
allowed moving the default location of signature and quoted content, and
security patches ended in 2006 when the development team got disbanded.
It
does have DAV support but Microsoft is discontinuing DAV access to their
mail hosts on Sept 1, 2009, and moving to Deltasync. There will be no
changes to OE to add Deltasync support to it. That means you can use OE
for
POP access to your Hotmail account but not for Deltasync access (that
would
give you access to the other webmail folders).

There are some screen scraper proxies or clients that will try to
navigate
the web pages that makeup the webmail interface for Hotmail. That is,
they
are coded to walk through the Hotmail web site. They act like a local
POP-to-HTTP proxy. You configure a POP account in your e-mail client
that
connects to this protocol converter proxy that then uses HTTP to walk
through the Hotmail web site. They aren't reliable. FreePOPs, YahooPOPs
(for use with Yahoo Mail only), and Thunderbird with its Webmail proxy
are
such types of screen-scraper clients. If the webmail interface changes
then
these screen-scraper clients will fail. You cannot get your e-mails
using
them until their author gets around to making their web-walking code
match
the changes to the web site. Since they provide POP access through their
converter proxy, you only get access to your mailbox (which is the Inbox
folder shown in the webmail client). Since you use POP to connect to the
protocol converter proxy, you won't get IMAP or Deltasync access to the
other folders available in the webmail client. Since Hotmail, even for
free
accounts, has POP access, there is no point in using a screen scraper to
access Hotmail.

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on
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When using a webnews-for-dummies interface, like Microsoft's Communities
or
Google Groups or a forum-to-Usenet proxy, those are gateways to Usenet.
Despite the appearance of a forum, you are participating in a newsgroup
(Usenet).

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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml

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