Hi forum members,

This is the first time I've posted at this forum, and probably the best
place for me to start to look for answers to my qustions.

I want to completely switch from my web based email, to an excellent
"client" based email program, with the emphasis on "client" based, not
internet/web based email.

With Microsoft, it appears I have two choices, Outlook, or Outlook Express.

Up front I'm stating, not interested in all the bells and whistles that may
or may not be added on to what I'm looking for in an excellent email program,
I.E. calendar, scheduling, and whatever may be available. I'm simply looking
for the best darn client based email program that exists, whether it's free,
or, I have to pay for it.

So, between Outlook and Outlook Express, what are the pros and cons about
one versus the other?

Please don't waste your time or mine tellilng me about the stuff I've stated
I'm not interested in. Simply want to compare Outlook vs Outlook Express's
email program and how either will serve me best.

My needs:

1 - I will want to set up a minimum of three email addreses, for business
and personal uses.

2 - Will need an address/conact book that can handle the details of each
contact.

3 - Will need to back-up the emails and contact data fairly easily so if my
hard drives crash or the program becomes corrupt somehow I have my info that
can be quickly, easily and confidently restored to the email program for easy
"up and running use again".

4 - Must have reputable security in place.

5 - Must be able to handle allot of daily email to each email address where
I can separate, sort, and organize the incoming and outgoing email in a
manner I choose, such as a tree lilke structure with folders I choose to set
up and arrange.

6 - Must have "average or above" email formatting abilities, with the
ability to add attachments of "most all"common types.


Again, please don't waste anybody's time with stuff that's not relevant to
my question.

Outlook or Outlook Express? For EMAIL PURPOSES. One or the other, Why vs
Why Not?

After all, successful business is about making things simpler, not more
complicated, when it comes to getting the job at hand done! Email that is.

Thanks for any help with info that will help me make my decision when it
comes to Outlook vs Outlook Express.

best to all,

Roas

On 3/9/2010 4:54 PM, Rosa wrote:
Hi forum members,

This is the first time I've posted at this forum, and probably the best
place for me to start to look for answers to my qustions.

I want to completely switch from my web based email, to an excellent
"client" based email program, with the emphasis on "client" based, not
internet/web based email.

With Microsoft, it appears I have two choices, Outlook, or Outlook Express.

Up front I'm stating, not interested in all the bells and whistles that may
or may not be added on to what I'm looking for in an excellent email program,
I.E. calendar, scheduling, and whatever may be available. I'm simply looking
for the best darn client based email program that exists, whether it's free,
or, I have to pay for it.

So, between Outlook and Outlook Express, what are the pros and cons about
one versus the other?

Please don't waste your time or mine tellilng me about the stuff I've stated
I'm not interested in. Simply want to compare Outlook vs Outlook Express's
email program and how either will serve me best.

My needs:

1 - I will want to set up a minimum of three email addreses, for business
and personal uses.

2 - Will need an address/conact book that can handle the details of each
contact.

3 - Will need to back-up the emails and contact data fairly easily so if my
hard drives crash or the program becomes corrupt somehow I have my info that
can be quickly, easily and confidently restored to the email program for easy
"up and running use again".

4 - Must have reputable security in place.

5 - Must be able to handle allot of daily email to each email address where
I can separate, sort, and organize the incoming and outgoing email in a
manner I choose, such as a tree lilke structure with folders I choose to set
up and arrange.

6 - Must have "average or above" email formatting abilities, with the
ability to add attachments of "most all"common types.


Again, please don't waste anybody's time with stuff that's not relevant to
my question.

Outlook or Outlook Express? For EMAIL PURPOSES. One or the other, Why vs
Why Not?

After all, successful business is about making things simpler, not more
complicated, when it comes to getting the job at hand done! Email that is.

Thanks for any help with info that will help me make my decision when it
comes to Outlook vs Outlook Express.

best to all,

Roas

Outlook. For one reason - you can extend its capabilities with add-ons.

You don't want the bells and whistles today, but they'll be waiting for
you to discover them.

Outlook is also far more advanced as far as folder management is
concerned. You can drag messages between folders easily and you can drag
folders easily as well.

Ask the same question in Outlook Express group.
--
Leonid S. Knyshov
Crashproof Solutions
510-282-1008
Twitter: @wiseleo
http://crashproofsolutions.com
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
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Thank you Leonid,

As I requested, specific answers, and you gave me two.


"Outlook is also far more advanced as far as folder management is
concerned. You can drag messages between folders easily and you can drag
folders easily as well"

Thanks Leonid, I'm assuming your answer is in the context of my original
post, as in a direct comparison to OE, meaning the "folder management" and
the "dragging messages between folders" is performed easier, or in a more
efficient manner than in Outlook Express?

I appreciate your direct answers to my questions. Since you are a SBS, I
can tell you know how to provide good straight answers.

Rosa

"Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert" wrote:

On 3/9/2010 4:54 PM, Rosa wrote:
Hi forum members,

This is the first time I've posted at this forum, and probably the best
place for me to start to look for answers to my qustions.

I want to completely switch from my web based email, to an excellent
"client" based email program, with the emphasis on "client" based, not
internet/web based email.

With Microsoft, it appears I have two choices, Outlook, or Outlook Express.

Up front I'm stating, not interested in all the bells and whistles that may
or may not be added on to what I'm looking for in an excellent email program,
I.E. calendar, scheduling, and whatever may be available. I'm simply looking
for the best darn client based email program that exists, whether it's free,
or, I have to pay for it.

So, between Outlook and Outlook Express, what are the pros and cons about
one versus the other?

Please don't waste your time or mine tellilng me about the stuff I've stated
I'm not interested in. Simply want to compare Outlook vs Outlook Express's
email program and how either will serve me best.

My needs:

1 - I will want to set up a minimum of three email addreses, for business
and personal uses.

2 - Will need an address/conact book that can handle the details of each
contact.

3 - Will need to back-up the emails and contact data fairly easily so if my
hard drives crash or the program becomes corrupt somehow I have my info that
can be quickly, easily and confidently restored to the email program for easy
"up and running use again".

4 - Must have reputable security in place.

5 - Must be able to handle allot of daily email to each email address where
I can separate, sort, and organize the incoming and outgoing email in a
manner I choose, such as a tree lilke structure with folders I choose to set
up and arrange.

6 - Must have "average or above" email formatting abilities, with the
ability to add attachments of "most all"common types.


Again, please don't waste anybody's time with stuff that's not relevant to
my question.

Outlook or Outlook Express? For EMAIL PURPOSES. One or the other, Why vs
Why Not?

After all, successful business is about making things simpler, not more
complicated, when it comes to getting the job at hand done! Email that is.

Thanks for any help with info that will help me make my decision when it
comes to Outlook vs Outlook Express.

best to all,

Roas

Outlook. For one reason - you can extend its capabilities with add-ons.

You don't want the bells and whistles today, but they'll be waiting for
you to discover them.

Outlook is also far more advanced as far as folder management is
concerned. You can drag messages between folders easily and you can drag
folders easily as well.

Ask the same question in Outlook Express group.
--
Leonid S. Knyshov
Crashproof Solutions
510-282-1008
Twitter: @wiseleo
http://crashproofsolutions.com
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
Try Exchange Online http://bit.ly/free-exchange-trial
Please vote "helpful" if I helped you
.

On 3/9/2010 8:29 PM, Rosa wrote:
Thank you Leonid,

As I requested, specific answers, and you gave me two.


"Outlook is also far more advanced as far as folder management is
concerned. You can drag messages between folders easily and you can drag
folders easily as well"

Thanks Leonid, I'm assuming your answer is in the context of my original
post, as in a direct comparison to OE, meaning the "folder management" and
the "dragging messages between folders" is performed easier, or in a more
efficient manner than in Outlook Express?

I appreciate your direct answers to my questions. Since you are a SBS, I
can tell you know how to provide good straight answers.

In OE, you can drag messages between folders, but you can't drag folders.

In Outlook, this is much easier and there are no limits.

In my opinion, everything is simply easier in Outlook. I used OE for
many years.

It has extremely powerful features, such as mail merge integration with
Microsoft Word. It also has gotchas. For example, the automatic archive
feature and the highly customizable views that can hide messages.

Get in the habit of dragging with the right button. There are no
confirmation prompts if you drag with the left button, which can lead to
misplacement of information.

Microsoft has free training on Outlook 2007 on http://office.microsoft.com
--
Leonid S. Knyshov
Crashproof Solutions
510-282-1008
Twitter: @wiseleo
http://crashproofsolutions.com
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
Try Exchange Online http://bit.ly/free-exchange-trial
Please vote "helpful" if I helped you

"Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
wrote in message
...

Outlook. For one reason - you can extend its capabilities with add-ons.

And there are FAR more add-ins written for Mozilla Thunderbird than there
are for Outlook.
Plus Thunderbird handles IMAP email far better then Outlook...and you can
choose whether to have a Calendar or not...with Outlook you have it whether
you want it or like it or not...

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:54:01 -0800, Rosa
wrote:

Hi forum members,

This is the first time I've posted at this forum, and probably the best
place for me to start to look for answers to my qustions.

I want to completely switch from my web based email, to an excellent
"client" based email program, with the emphasis on "client" based, not
internet/web based email.

With Microsoft, it appears I have two choices, Outlook, or Outlook Express.

Up front I'm stating, not interested in all the bells and whistles that may
or may not be added on to what I'm looking for in an excellent email program,
I.E. calendar, scheduling, and whatever may be available. I'm simply looking
for the best darn client based email program that exists, whether it's free,
or, I have to pay for it.

So, between Outlook and Outlook Express, what are the pros and cons about
one versus the other?

Please don't waste your time or mine tellilng me about the stuff I've stated
I'm not interested in. Simply want to compare Outlook vs Outlook Express's
email program and how either will serve me best.


You may not like my answer, but here's my view:

1. Some people will prefer Outlook and others will prefer Outlook
Express. When you get people telling you their preferences, it's very
hard to get enough good enough information to make up your own mind.

2. You're asking in an Outlook newsgroup. Almost everybody here (me,
for example) is in *this* newsgroup because they prefer Outlook to
Outlook Express.

3. You are asking about two Microsoft products. Those aren't the only
two Microsoft products to choose from (Windows Live Mail is another),
but even more important is that there are other *non*-Microsoft
products to also consider.

4. My recommendation is to ignore my preferences and everybody else's.
Try them both, as well as other e-mail programs, and decide for
yourself which works best for *you*.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Hi Ken,

Thanks for taking the time to provide me with some insight.

Regarding your four numbered answers to my six numbered questions:

Answer-1, That's why I suggested we cut to the chase in my original post
and address the questions I specifically posted.

Answer-2, Same as answer-1.

Answer-3, In my original post, I stated I was not interested in any form or
internet based, or web-based email. You suggested "Windows Live Mail". Is
that "client" based, or an "internet/web based" email set up?

Answer-4, In business, I need to be efficient when it comes to the baisics.
Rarely that means experimenting myself with all the possible options that may
be available, but most the time it means I seek the advice of those who have
experience and can cut the chase with the pros and cons, leaving the ultimate
decision to me. I don't have the time to experiement with all that's out
there. That's why I was trying to be as explicit as possible when I posted
that I'm not trying to waste people's time, just looking for the the pros and
cons between the "emailing" aspects of Outlook vs Outlook Express.

I was hoping that somebody at this forum was going to be able to present the
"facts", the "pros & cons" and provide unbiased factually answers to my
questions, based on the "experience" of those that have realistically
compared Outlook vs Outlook Express, and then can comment as I origianlly
posted on the "email aspects" of both. Not all the other addon I specificed
I was not interested in.

But I appreciate the effort Ken. Thanks again,

Rosa

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:54:01 -0800, Rosa
wrote:

Hi forum members,

This is the first time I've posted at this forum, and probably the best
place for me to start to look for answers to my qustions.

I want to completely switch from my web based email, to an excellent
"client" based email program, with the emphasis on "client" based, not
internet/web based email.

With Microsoft, it appears I have two choices, Outlook, or Outlook Express.

Up front I'm stating, not interested in all the bells and whistles that may
or may not be added on to what I'm looking for in an excellent email program,
I.E. calendar, scheduling, and whatever may be available. I'm simply looking
for the best darn client based email program that exists, whether it's free,
or, I have to pay for it.

So, between Outlook and Outlook Express, what are the pros and cons about
one versus the other?

Please don't waste your time or mine tellilng me about the stuff I've stated
I'm not interested in. Simply want to compare Outlook vs Outlook Express's
email program and how either will serve me best.


You may not like my answer, but here's my view:

1. Some people will prefer Outlook and others will prefer Outlook
Express. When you get people telling you their preferences, it's very
hard to get enough good enough information to make up your own mind.

2. You're asking in an Outlook newsgroup. Almost everybody here (me,
for example) is in *this* newsgroup because they prefer Outlook to
Outlook Express.

3. You are asking about two Microsoft products. Those aren't the only
two Microsoft products to choose from (Windows Live Mail is another),
but even more important is that there are other *non*-Microsoft
products to also consider.

4. My recommendation is to ignore my preferences and everybody else's.
Try them both, as well as other e-mail programs, and decide for
yourself which works best for *you*.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
.

"Rosa" wrote in message
...

I was hoping that somebody at this forum was going to be able to present the
"facts", the "pros & cons"

That requires the people in this forum to use both programs and be familiar
with both programs. The people here are Outlook users, and, in general NOT
Outlook Express users. Asking "which is better, Outlook Express or Outlook"
here is like asking us to compare e-mail and heart surgery. Sure, someone in
the group may be a cardiologist and be able to give you guidance, but how
likely is it?
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

Not very.
--
Russ Valentine
"Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
"Rosa" wrote in message
...

I was hoping that somebody at this forum was going to be able to present
the
"facts", the "pros & cons"

That requires the people in this forum to use both programs and be
familiar with both programs. The people here are Outlook users, and, in
general NOT Outlook Express users. Asking "which is better, Outlook
Express or Outlook" here is like asking us to compare e-mail and heart
surgery. Sure, someone in the group may be a cardiologist and be able to
give you guidance, but how likely is it?
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

LOL ......... doc

"Russ Valentine" wrote in message
...
Not very.
--
Russ Valentine
"Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
"Rosa" wrote in message
...

I was hoping that somebody at this forum was going to be able to present
the
"facts", the "pros & cons"

That requires the people in this forum to use both programs and be
familiar with both programs. The people here are Outlook users, and, in
general NOT Outlook Express users. Asking "which is better, Outlook
Express or Outlook" here is like asking us to compare e-mail and heart
surgery. Sure, someone in the group may be a cardiologist and be able to
give you guidance, but how likely is it?
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]