On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam emails. I can
only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and 2007 is not. Why is
that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?

Hi Chuck,

Go into Tools, Options, Junk Email and switch your junk email filter
off. Then close and reopen Outlook and switch the junk email filter back
on.
Any improvement?

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Chuck" wrote in message
:

On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam emails. I can
only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and 2007 is not. Why is
that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?

Mr. Schmidt, I also have new Outlook but there is nothing like You describe
there!
I got this "Junk Mail" option mentioned before, but I was never able to find
it......
I also recommended to MS to start hiring professionall programmers to make
their operating systems, but then there would be no bugs and things would be
working perfectly, so what would MS sell as new OS to users :-((
Spam mali would be fast finished if user can block unwanted mail, and all is
necesary is to block mails with same hyperlinks that unwanted mail is driving
users to read, dont You think? I am professionall programmer and I can do it,
but You know what? Nobody would let me do it, because then webmasters would
not earn money on spam and pornography
I can also make inteligent routine for recognition of words that spamers
use, which would not be confused by extra spaces or speciall characters
spamers put in to fool spam filters.......
Also, there should be central database of blocked emails, and when 51% of
users decide to block something, then this WEB page or even server should be
shut down permanently! Antivirus control should also be put on servers, to
stop sending
viruses, so then there would be no possibility that another computer would
be infected, is that not so?
All the best from Marijan Pollak!
But, as long as MS is leting hackers to find weak spots in their programs
instead of making sure such dont exist in first place, we would all suffer!

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi Chuck,

Go into Tools, Options, Junk Email and switch your junk email filter
off. Then close and reopen Outlook and switch the junk email filter back
on.
Any improvement?

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Chuck" wrote in message
:

On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam emails. I can
only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and 2007 is not. Why is
that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?

One man's idea of spam is another man's idea of good mail, so letting 50% of
the users decide it's spam (especially if only a few report it) is a bad
idea. Better is to enable spam scanning on the server side - this gets rid
of all the real spam such as the junk currently going around with subjects
such as '[sender] wrote:' My mail server uses ORFEE from vamsoft.com and it
gets rid of a ton of this crap.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
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"Henrik14" wrote in message
...
Mr. Schmidt, I also have new Outlook but there is nothing like You
describe
there!
I got this "Junk Mail" option mentioned before, but I was never able to
find
it......
I also recommended to MS to start hiring professionall programmers to make
their operating systems, but then there would be no bugs and things would
be
working perfectly, so what would MS sell as new OS to users :-((
Spam mali would be fast finished if user can block unwanted mail, and all
is
necesary is to block mails with same hyperlinks that unwanted mail is
driving
users to read, dont You think? I am professionall programmer and I can do
it,
but You know what? Nobody would let me do it, because then webmasters
would
not earn money on spam and pornography
I can also make inteligent routine for recognition of words that spamers
use, which would not be confused by extra spaces or speciall characters
spamers put in to fool spam filters.......
Also, there should be central database of blocked emails, and when 51% of
users decide to block something, then this WEB page or even server should
be
shut down permanently! Antivirus control should also be put on servers, to
stop sending
viruses, so then there would be no possibility that another computer would
be infected, is that not so?
All the best from Marijan Pollak!
But, as long as MS is leting hackers to find weak spots in their programs
instead of making sure such dont exist in first place, we would all
suffer!

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi Chuck,

Go into Tools, Options, Junk Email and switch your junk email filter
off. Then close and reopen Outlook and switch the junk email filter back
on.
Any improvement?

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Chuck" wrote in message
:

On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam emails.
I can
only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and 2007 is not. Why
is
that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?

Honored Mrs./Miss Poremsky,
It is true what You say, but anybody can find what he/she like by searching
WEB,
so mayority need not suffer unwanted mail because there are few who would
like it, dont You think? If I dont like advertisement, I would not read it,
and those people are hanging it on our nose! Worst is, not only those are 99%
things that I even CANNOT get if I would want to, and of remaining 1% more
than half would just take money and dont deliver (and keep sending me same
offers!) or I would get some placebo pills or worthless merchandise in best
case!
If they advertise from registered domain and traceable site, then one can
more easy check if this is just bogus company or real factory and product, no?
The way it is, I am blocking hundred or more spam senders per day as 99.99%
of mail I receive is something I am not interested in! Thanks to
ineffectiveness of Microsoft software, I cannot even block multiple senders,
and obviously there must be sequentiall comparation with allready blocked
senders going on, as I need nearly a minute to block single sender, which say
that MS is hiring amateurs that know but little about programming, but have
succesfully hacked their OS, which is not hard to da considering what pile of
slaped up horror code it is!
And for percentage of users that would be deciding in case of stoping some
kind of mail permanently, would it be 70%, 80% or 99%, at some point mayority
has to have means to fight back those asaults on our privacy, at least I
believe so!
Dont You?
Have anybody calculated volume of spam mail that choke bandwith daily?

All the best from Zagreb, the capitol of Croatia, Europe!

Marijan Pollak
IT Systems Engineer 1st Class, Instructor and Team Leader
-in retirement-

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

One man's idea of spam is another man's idea of good mail, so letting 50% of
the users decide it's spam (especially if only a few report it) is a bad
idea. Better is to enable spam scanning on the server side - this gets rid
of all the real spam such as the junk currently going around with subjects
such as '[sender] wrote:' My mail server uses ORFEE from vamsoft.com and it
gets rid of a ton of this crap.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Henrik14" wrote in message
...
Mr. Schmidt, I also have new Outlook but there is nothing like You
describe
there!
I got this "Junk Mail" option mentioned before, but I was never able to
find
it......
I also recommended to MS to start hiring professionall programmers to make
their operating systems, but then there would be no bugs and things would
be
working perfectly, so what would MS sell as new OS to users :-((
Spam mali would be fast finished if user can block unwanted mail, and all
is
necesary is to block mails with same hyperlinks that unwanted mail is
driving
users to read, dont You think? I am professionall programmer and I can do
it,
but You know what? Nobody would let me do it, because then webmasters
would
not earn money on spam and pornography
I can also make inteligent routine for recognition of words that spamers
use, which would not be confused by extra spaces or speciall characters
spamers put in to fool spam filters.......
Also, there should be central database of blocked emails, and when 51% of
users decide to block something, then this WEB page or even server should
be
shut down permanently! Antivirus control should also be put on servers, to
stop sending
viruses, so then there would be no possibility that another computer would
be infected, is that not so?
All the best from Marijan Pollak!
But, as long as MS is leting hackers to find weak spots in their programs
instead of making sure such dont exist in first place, we would all
suffer!

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi Chuck,

Go into Tools, Options, Junk Email and switch your junk email filter
off. Then close and reopen Outlook and switch the junk email filter back
on.
Any improvement?

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Chuck" wrote in message
:

On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam emails.
I can
only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and 2007 is not. Why
is
that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?

I look forward to your first Operating System which I am sure you are in the process of writing as we speak. Of course, it will be bug and flaw free, and allow complete user controls over its configurations, no matter how silly the configuration is or how much of a hole it creates for miscreants to exploit.

I anxiously await this perfect operating system, after which I am sure you will be publishing the perfect spam-free mail client that still has all the functionality of current mail clients and is not crippled in any way. And, of course, this mail program would be flexible enough to anticipate strategies that are thought of 5 years after the initial coding.

Please, I anxioulsy await your commercial offerings, oh ideal programmer who can do these things now but "people" will not "let" you.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.

After furious head scratching, Henrik14 asked:

| Mr. Schmidt, I also have new Outlook but there is nothing like You
| describe there!
| I got this "Junk Mail" option mentioned before, but I was never able
| to find it......
| I also recommended to MS to start hiring professionall programmers to
| make their operating systems, but then there would be no bugs and
| things would be working perfectly, so what would MS sell as new OS to
| users :-((
| Spam mali would be fast finished if user can block unwanted mail, and
| all is necesary is to block mails with same hyperlinks that unwanted
| mail is driving users to read, dont You think? I am professionall
| programmer and I can do it, but You know what? Nobody would let me do
| it, because then webmasters would not earn money on spam and
| pornography
| I can also make inteligent routine for recognition of words that
| spamers use, which would not be confused by extra spaces or speciall
| characters spamers put in to fool spam filters.......
| Also, there should be central database of blocked emails, and when
| 51% of users decide to block something, then this WEB page or even
| server should be shut down permanently! Antivirus control should also
| be put on servers, to stop sending
| viruses, so then there would be no possibility that another computer
| would be infected, is that not so?
| All the best from Marijan Pollak!
| But, as long as MS is leting hackers to find weak spots in their
| programs instead of making sure such dont exist in first place, we
| would all suffer!
|
| "Patrick Schmid" wrote:
|
|| Hi Chuck,
||
|| Go into Tools, Options, Junk Email and switch your junk email filter
|| off. Then close and reopen Outlook and switch the junk email filter
|| back on.
|| Any improvement?
||
|| Patrick Schmid
|| --------------
|| http://pschmid.net
||
|| "Chuck" wrote in message
|| :
||
||| On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam
||| emails. I can only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and
||| 2007 is not. Why is that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?

My mail server (protected by ORFEE) filters out about 60% of received mail
as spam. About 10% of what gets past ORFEE is spam. Many corporations report
filtering out 80% or more as spam. Yes, it is a bandwidth choking problem,
but attacking it at the client level (Outlook) does little to help. You need
to block it at the server and ISPs need to block subscribers computers which
have rogue spambots or open relay SMTP servers.

If your mail server does not offer a mail server and Outlook's spam filter
does not meet your need, there are a number of good products available - one
of the best (SpamBayes) is even free. A list is at
http://www.slipstick.com/rules/junkmail.htm

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Henrik14" wrote in message
...
Honored Mrs./Miss Poremsky,
It is true what You say, but anybody can find what he/she like by
searching
WEB,
so mayority need not suffer unwanted mail because there are few who would
like it, dont You think? If I dont like advertisement, I would not read
it,
and those people are hanging it on our nose! Worst is, not only those are
99%
things that I even CANNOT get if I would want to, and of remaining 1% more
than half would just take money and dont deliver (and keep sending me same
offers!) or I would get some placebo pills or worthless merchandise in
best
case!
If they advertise from registered domain and traceable site, then one can
more easy check if this is just bogus company or real factory and product,
no?
The way it is, I am blocking hundred or more spam senders per day as
99.99%
of mail I receive is something I am not interested in! Thanks to
ineffectiveness of Microsoft software, I cannot even block multiple
senders,
and obviously there must be sequentiall comparation with allready blocked
senders going on, as I need nearly a minute to block single sender, which
say
that MS is hiring amateurs that know but little about programming, but
have
succesfully hacked their OS, which is not hard to da considering what pile
of
slaped up horror code it is!
And for percentage of users that would be deciding in case of stoping some
kind of mail permanently, would it be 70%, 80% or 99%, at some point
mayority
has to have means to fight back those asaults on our privacy, at least I
believe so!
Dont You?
Have anybody calculated volume of spam mail that choke bandwith daily?

All the best from Zagreb, the capitol of Croatia, Europe!

Marijan Pollak
IT Systems Engineer 1st Class, Instructor and Team Leader
-in retirement-

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote:

One man's idea of spam is another man's idea of good mail, so letting 50%
of
the users decide it's spam (especially if only a few report it) is a bad
idea. Better is to enable spam scanning on the server side - this gets
rid
of all the real spam such as the junk currently going around with
subjects
such as '[sender] wrote:' My mail server uses ORFEE from vamsoft.com and
it
gets rid of a ton of this crap.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Henrik14" wrote in message
...
Mr. Schmidt, I also have new Outlook but there is nothing like You
describe
there!
I got this "Junk Mail" option mentioned before, but I was never able to
find
it......
I also recommended to MS to start hiring professionall programmers to
make
their operating systems, but then there would be no bugs and things
would
be
working perfectly, so what would MS sell as new OS to users :-((
Spam mali would be fast finished if user can block unwanted mail, and
all
is
necesary is to block mails with same hyperlinks that unwanted mail is
driving
users to read, dont You think? I am professionall programmer and I can
do
it,
but You know what? Nobody would let me do it, because then webmasters
would
not earn money on spam and pornography
I can also make inteligent routine for recognition of words that
spamers
use, which would not be confused by extra spaces or speciall characters
spamers put in to fool spam filters.......
Also, there should be central database of blocked emails, and when 51%
of
users decide to block something, then this WEB page or even server
should
be
shut down permanently! Antivirus control should also be put on servers,
to
stop sending
viruses, so then there would be no possibility that another computer
would
be infected, is that not so?
All the best from Marijan Pollak!
But, as long as MS is leting hackers to find weak spots in their
programs
instead of making sure such dont exist in first place, we would all
suffer!

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi Chuck,

Go into Tools, Options, Junk Email and switch your junk email filter
off. Then close and reopen Outlook and switch the junk email filter
back
on.
Any improvement?

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"Chuck" wrote in message
:

On my initial upgrade to 2003 to 2007 I recieved over 300 spam
emails.
I can
only assume that Outlook 2003 was blocking them and 2007 is not.
Why
is
that? Has anyone experienced similar problems?