I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk mail
but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk mail
folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are in html
format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always converted
automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them they do get
deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in plain
text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I have no
experience of writing a macro.

Al

PE wrote:
I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are
in html format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always
converted automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them
they do get deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Al

I gave up and I am using MailWasher. There are other such programs. It
seems to work a lot better than anything I could come up with.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Absolutely - a real antijunk filter is going to do much better than rules..
and be easier to maintain.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

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"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
PE wrote:
I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are
in html format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always
converted automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them
they do get deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Al

I gave up and I am using MailWasher. There are other such programs.
It seems to work a lot better than anything I could come up with.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

PE wrote:

I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder.

That's because the Junk E-mail filter runs before your rules do. That's by
design so that if you have rules that move messages to other folders, they
won't move junk.

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Someone else will have to comment.
--
Brian Tillman

Do you consider the junk-mail filter in Outlook 2003 to be a "real" filter. I've often wondered if I
should stick with it or try something else. It's far from perfect, but I don't know if others are
any better.


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely - a real antijunk filter is going to do much better than rules..
and be easier to maintain.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
PE wrote:
I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are
in html format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always
converted automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them
they do get deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Al

I gave up and I am using MailWasher. There are other such programs.
It seems to work a lot better than anything I could come up with.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

it's acceptable and if it meets your needs, it's real. The filter works
well enough for a number of people who just don't want to mess around with
configuring a better filter or are too cheap to spend any money (although
one of the best is free). If it doesn't, then there are several much better
options.

http://www.slipstick.com/rules/junkmail.htm - spambayes is a favorite of
many users.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Jay" - wrote in message ...
Do you consider the junk-mail filter in Outlook 2003 to be a "real"
filter. I've often wondered if I
should stick with it or try something else. It's far from perfect, but I
don't know if others are
any better.


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely - a real antijunk filter is going to do much better than
rules..
and be easier to maintain.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
PE wrote:
I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are
in html format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always
converted automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them
they do get deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Al

I gave up and I am using MailWasher. There are other such programs.
It seems to work a lot better than anything I could come up with.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

Thanks for your reply Diane.

A lot of junk emails these days are graphics, presumably to get round things like Bayesian filters
which I assume only work on text. How well does spambayes cope with graphic-type junk emails?

Jay


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
...
it's acceptable and if it meets your needs, it's real. The filter works
well enough for a number of people who just don't want to mess around with
configuring a better filter or are too cheap to spend any money (although
one of the best is free). If it doesn't, then there are several much better
options.

http://www.slipstick.com/rules/junkmail.htm - spambayes is a favorite of
many users.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Jay" - wrote in message ...
Do you consider the junk-mail filter in Outlook 2003 to be a "real"
filter. I've often wondered if I
should stick with it or try something else. It's far from perfect, but I
don't know if others are
any better.


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely - a real antijunk filter is going to do much better than
rules..
and be easier to maintain.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
PE wrote:
I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are
in html format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always
converted automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them
they do get deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Al

I gave up and I am using MailWasher. There are other such programs.
It seems to work a lot better than anything I could come up with.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit

because of the way bayes uses weighting and it's trainability, I think it
does pretty good.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Jay" - wrote in message ...
Thanks for your reply Diane.

A lot of junk emails these days are graphics, presumably to get round
things like Bayesian filters
which I assume only work on text. How well does spambayes cope with
graphic-type junk emails?

Jay


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
...
it's acceptable and if it meets your needs, it's real. The filter works
well enough for a number of people who just don't want to mess around with
configuring a better filter or are too cheap to spend any money (although
one of the best is free). If it doesn't, then there are several much
better
options.

http://www.slipstick.com/rules/junkmail.htm - spambayes is a favorite of
many users.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Jay" - wrote in message ...
Do you consider the junk-mail filter in Outlook 2003 to be a "real"
filter. I've often wondered if I
should stick with it or try something else. It's far from perfect, but I
don't know if others are
any better.


"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely - a real antijunk filter is going to do much better than
rules..
and be easier to maintain.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com
Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:



"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
PE wrote:
I have created rules to permanently delete some of the incoming junk
mail but they do not always work and the mail finishes up in the junk
mail folder. I understand the rules don't work on emails which are
in html format. Messages in the junk mail folders are always
converted automatically to plain text and if I run the rule on them
they do get deleted!

Is it possible to create a macro (or another rule) which would run the
rule(s) to delete these messages once they are in the junk folder in
plain text? If so, I would appreciate your help in creating one as I
have no experience of writing a macro.

Al

I gave up and I am using MailWasher. There are other such programs.
It seems to work a lot better than anything I could come up with.


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit