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  #1  
Old June 6th 07, 05:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Dean
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Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so here
goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland originally
recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and then compacted
my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as to be almost useless
now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have to wait 30 seconds for
it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so I ran
the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more than 15%
free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G free, Outlook
was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I could notice.
Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean


  #2  
Old June 6th 07, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Charles W Davis
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Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

Uninstall and reinstall will do nothing that Detect and Repair didn't do.

Since you state that your hard drive is 80BG, I would guess that you should
look to the amount of RAM that is installed on your machine. Additional RAM
is relatively cheap. When you have Outlook open you are using a large amount
of RAM and the computer is constantly paging due lack of RAM. When hard
drive space is low, the paging is further hampered.

Just a thought.
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so here
goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and
then compacted my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as to
be almost useless now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have to
wait 30 seconds for it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so I
ran the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more
than 15% free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G
free, Outlook was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I
could notice. Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean


  #3  
Old June 6th 07, 09:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Dean
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Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

Under system information, total physical memory is 1 GB, available physical
memory is 179 MB with excel and word and IE7 and outlook express and outlook
open. Is this the right measure and, if so, is it enough, or small enough to
slow things down? If I have multiple big excel spreadsheets open, as
opposed to just one, now does that matter much?

Thanks!
Dean

"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Uninstall and reinstall will do nothing that Detect and Repair didn't do.

Since you state that your hard drive is 80BG, I would guess that you
should look to the amount of RAM that is installed on your machine.
Additional RAM is relatively cheap. When you have Outlook open you are
using a large amount of RAM and the computer is constantly paging due lack
of RAM. When hard drive space is low, the paging is further hampered.

Just a thought.
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so
here goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and
then compacted my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as to
be almost useless now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have to
wait 30 seconds for it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so I
ran the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more
than 15% free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G
free, Outlook was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I
could notice. Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean




  #4  
Old June 7th 07, 12:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
DL
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Posts: 2,598
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

What happens with OL if you use msconfig to disable all startups, then in
Services Tab hide all MS disable the rest, then reboot - you will get a
warning msg which you should accept. Then start & use OL, same behaviour?
NB this process will disable any AV & third party Firewall

"Dean" wrote in message
news
Under system information, total physical memory is 1 GB, available

physical
memory is 179 MB with excel and word and IE7 and outlook express and

outlook
open. Is this the right measure and, if so, is it enough, or small enough

to
slow things down? If I have multiple big excel spreadsheets open, as
opposed to just one, now does that matter much?

Thanks!
Dean

"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Uninstall and reinstall will do nothing that Detect and Repair didn't

do.

Since you state that your hard drive is 80BG, I would guess that you
should look to the amount of RAM that is installed on your machine.
Additional RAM is relatively cheap. When you have Outlook open you are
using a large amount of RAM and the computer is constantly paging due

lack
of RAM. When hard drive space is low, the paging is further hampered.

Just a thought.
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response

for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so
here goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and
then compacted my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as

to
be almost useless now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have

to
wait 30 seconds for it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later

notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so

I
ran the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more
than 15% free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G
free, Outlook was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I
could notice. Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean






  #5  
Old June 9th 07, 05:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Dean
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Posts: 35
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

Ok, problem is back today (strange intermittency of problem) and I did what
you said. After rebooting, I noticed that nothing on the startup tab is
checked but most things on the services tab were checked - is that the way
it should be?

In any event, it did not help Outlook at all. Still long delays. So what
does that tell us and what to do next?

Thanks!
Dean


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
What happens with OL if you use msconfig to disable all startups, then in
Services Tab hide all MS disable the rest, then reboot - you will get a
warning msg which you should accept. Then start & use OL, same behaviour?
NB this process will disable any AV & third party Firewall

"Dean" wrote in message
news
Under system information, total physical memory is 1 GB, available

physical
memory is 179 MB with excel and word and IE7 and outlook express and

outlook
open. Is this the right measure and, if so, is it enough, or small enough

to
slow things down? If I have multiple big excel spreadsheets open, as
opposed to just one, now does that matter much?

Thanks!
Dean

"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Uninstall and reinstall will do nothing that Detect and Repair didn't

do.

Since you state that your hard drive is 80BG, I would guess that you
should look to the amount of RAM that is installed on your machine.
Additional RAM is relatively cheap. When you have Outlook open you are
using a large amount of RAM and the computer is constantly paging due

lack
of RAM. When hard drive space is low, the paging is further hampered.

Just a thought.
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response

for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so
here goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and
then compacted my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as

to
be almost useless now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have

to
wait 30 seconds for it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later

notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so

I
ran the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more
than 15% free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only
2.7G
free, Outlook was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I
could notice. Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it
make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean








  #6  
Old June 11th 07, 05:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Dean
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Posts: 35
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

I hesitate to post this, since I fear you folks will lose interest and the
problem will come back soon (it already has shown these signs of
intermittency), but things are OK again now. However, I have not rechecked
anything on the msconfig startup tab and nothing is checked except ctfmon,
which seems to have checked itself.

What should I do to put startup back? I didn't think to record what was
checked and what wasn't. Other than the warning each time I reboot, the
computer seems none the worse for wear for having nothing but cftmon
checked.

It may be my imagination, but it almost seems like if I rush into Outlook,
right after it says its finished sending and receiving and all, it is
absurdly slow (and after that it doesn't speed up, except possibly upon
reboot), but if I give it another 5 minutes, it's OK. Doe this make any
sense?

One last thing. I have been having lots of problems with Microsoft .NET
Framework, Version 1.1. I assume this would be unrelated to these Outlook
slowness problems, right?

Thanks!
Dean



"Dean" wrote in message
...
Ok, problem is back today (strange intermittency of problem) and I did
what you said. After rebooting, I noticed that nothing on the startup tab
is checked but most things on the services tab were checked - is that the
way it should be?

In any event, it did not help Outlook at all. Still long delays. So what
does that tell us and what to do next?

Thanks!
Dean


"DL" address@invalid wrote in message
...
What happens with OL if you use msconfig to disable all startups, then in
Services Tab hide all MS disable the rest, then reboot - you will get a
warning msg which you should accept. Then start & use OL, same behaviour?
NB this process will disable any AV & third party Firewall

"Dean" wrote in message
news
Under system information, total physical memory is 1 GB, available

physical
memory is 179 MB with excel and word and IE7 and outlook express and

outlook
open. Is this the right measure and, if so, is it enough, or small
enough

to
slow things down? If I have multiple big excel spreadsheets open, as
opposed to just one, now does that matter much?

Thanks!
Dean

"Charles W Davis" wrote in message
...
Uninstall and reinstall will do nothing that Detect and Repair didn't

do.

Since you state that your hard drive is 80BG, I would guess that you
should look to the amount of RAM that is installed on your machine.
Additional RAM is relatively cheap. When you have Outlook open you are
using a large amount of RAM and the computer is constantly paging due

lack
of RAM. When hard drive space is low, the paging is further hampered.

Just a thought.
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response

for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so
here goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe,
and
then compacted my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as

to
be almost useless now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have

to
wait 30 seconds for it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later

notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and
so

I
ran the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have
more
than 15% free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only
2.7G
free, Outlook was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that
I
could notice. Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it
make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean










  #7  
Old June 6th 07, 06:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Peter Foldes
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Posts: 881
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

Hi Dean

See if this anything in here will help
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9902&SiteID=17

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9726&SiteID=17
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Dean" wrote in message ...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so here
goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland originally
recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and then compacted
my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as to be almost useless
now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have to wait 30 seconds for
it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so I ran
the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more than 15%
free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G free, Outlook
was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I could notice.
Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean


  #8  
Old June 7th 07, 12:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Dean
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Posts: 35
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

Thanks, Peter. The 2nd link seems like a perfect match for my
configuration, office 2002 but upgraded to outlook 2003 and IE7. I guess
that author is hoping Microsoft will deal with it soon. Is there any reason
to think they know or care?

The first link has a lot of stuff which somewhat confuses me. There's a lot
about spybot being the problem. I do have it under add/remove programs,
from my last anti-spam campaign, but am pretty sure it is not active. I
uninstalled it just in case. There was also something about changing the
security Zone to "Internet" rather than "Restricted sites", so I did that,
though I am clueless as to the implications of such - can you advise? It
looks like it wiped out my restricted sites and that seems like a bad thing,
though no one seemed to warn against it.

Other than that, there was reference to removing two updates, but most
seemed too concerned to do that. Also, there was something about going back
to IE6 which would be ok with me, if it's safe. I actually liked IE6
better. Any thoughts?

For now, the problem seems better, but it seems to be somewhat intermittent,
coming and going.

The only other thing that concerns me is that I had other slowness symptoms
such as opening e-mails and switching from sent items to in boxes whereas
everyone in these threads seems to only mention issues with slow typing.

I'd appreciate any other help to sort through this maze. As I said, if IE6
is safe enough and IE7 is necessary to have a problem, I would be fine with
going back to IE6.

Thanks again!
Dean


"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...
Hi Dean

See if this anything in here will help
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9902&SiteID=17

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9726&SiteID=17
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so
here
goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally
recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and then compacted
my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as to be almost
useless
now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have to wait 30 seconds for
it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so I
ran
the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more than
15%
free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G free,
Outlook
was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I could notice.
Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean




  #9  
Old June 7th 07, 04:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Randy Brook
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Posts: 9
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

I posted in your earlier thread a similar problem. What you might try
is running Outlook 2003 in Safe Mode. If you see your problems
disappear but you can still get all your mail, then that is a clue.
This was my experience.

I don't know what it is a clue to, unfortunately, since I just noticed
this yesterday and don't know much about Outlook's Safe Mode. It would
be an indication - at least - that it isn't related to your Internet
connection or Exchange Server. It would probably also indicate that it
isn't a question of too little system memory or hard drive space, or a
damaged or too large a PST file.


On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:17:20 -0700, "Dean"
wrote:

Thanks, Peter. The 2nd link seems like a perfect match for my
configuration, office 2002 but upgraded to outlook 2003 and IE7. I guess
that author is hoping Microsoft will deal with it soon. Is there any reason
to think they know or care?

The first link has a lot of stuff which somewhat confuses me. There's a lot
about spybot being the problem. I do have it under add/remove programs,
from my last anti-spam campaign, but am pretty sure it is not active. I
uninstalled it just in case. There was also something about changing the
security Zone to "Internet" rather than "Restricted sites", so I did that,
though I am clueless as to the implications of such - can you advise? It
looks like it wiped out my restricted sites and that seems like a bad thing,
though no one seemed to warn against it.

Other than that, there was reference to removing two updates, but most
seemed too concerned to do that. Also, there was something about going back
to IE6 which would be ok with me, if it's safe. I actually liked IE6
better. Any thoughts?

For now, the problem seems better, but it seems to be somewhat intermittent,
coming and going.

The only other thing that concerns me is that I had other slowness symptoms
such as opening e-mails and switching from sent items to in boxes whereas
everyone in these threads seems to only mention issues with slow typing.

I'd appreciate any other help to sort through this maze. As I said, if IE6
is safe enough and IE7 is necessary to have a problem, I would be fine with
going back to IE6.

Thanks again!
Dean


"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...
Hi Dean

See if this anything in here will help
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9902&SiteID=17

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9726&SiteID=17


  #10  
Old June 7th 07, 09:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
DL
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Posts: 2,598
Default Outlook 2003 IN Terrible Shape

Since you upgraded are you still using your origonal pst (data file) which
as its the older version will have the size limitation.
A 2003 unicode data file does not have this limitation

"Dean" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Peter. The 2nd link seems like a perfect match for my
configuration, office 2002 but upgraded to outlook 2003 and IE7. I guess
that author is hoping Microsoft will deal with it soon. Is there any

reason
to think they know or care?

The first link has a lot of stuff which somewhat confuses me. There's a

lot
about spybot being the problem. I do have it under add/remove programs,
from my last anti-spam campaign, but am pretty sure it is not active. I
uninstalled it just in case. There was also something about changing the
security Zone to "Internet" rather than "Restricted sites", so I did that,
though I am clueless as to the implications of such - can you advise? It
looks like it wiped out my restricted sites and that seems like a bad

thing,
though no one seemed to warn against it.

Other than that, there was reference to removing two updates, but most
seemed too concerned to do that. Also, there was something about going

back
to IE6 which would be ok with me, if it's safe. I actually liked IE6
better. Any thoughts?

For now, the problem seems better, but it seems to be somewhat

intermittent,
coming and going.

The only other thing that concerns me is that I had other slowness

symptoms
such as opening e-mails and switching from sent items to in boxes whereas
everyone in these threads seems to only mention issues with slow typing.

I'd appreciate any other help to sort through this maze. As I said, if

IE6
is safe enough and IE7 is necessary to have a problem, I would be fine

with
going back to IE6.

Thanks again!
Dean


"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...
Hi Dean

See if this anything in here will help
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9902&SiteID=17

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...9726&SiteID=17
--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Dean" wrote in message
...
I added the following to an old thread I had done and got no response for
awhile, so I think that, maybe, I should have posted as a new item, so
here
goes:

My outlook has been exhibiting more and more delays. As K Orland
originally
recommended, I did detect and repair, then scanpst.exe, and then

compacted
my PST but it hasn't helped. My Outlook is so slow as to be almost
useless
now. I can type say, 5 words, at a time, then have to wait 30 seconds

for
it to catch up, etc, etc.

Does anyone have any helpful ideas for me, PLEASE!!! I did later notice
that I only had about 2.7GB left on my hard drive of about 80GB and so I
ran
the equivalent of scandisk. then deleted so that I would have more than
15%
free which then allowed me to run defrag. Even with only 2.7G free,
Outlook
was the only program exhibiting slowness symptoms that I could notice.
Still things are no better.

If the problem is likely in Outlook rather than in my PST, does it make
sense to uninstall Outlook, then reinstall and import the PST?

Thanks much!
Dean






 




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