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Old October 17th 07, 11:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Roxana
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Posts: 24
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....

For a *single solitary program* that - for some reason - seems to create a
landslide of posts, this newsgroup is "understaffed", to say the very least.
Many/most questions slip into the void... unaddressed. If there are any
replies, one must wait until h*** freezes over for a follow-up to the
'boiler-plate answer' which miraculously gets supplied.

"I" have been around these MS newsgroups since ~2002 and never have I
experienced a more unsatisfactory result that I see these days - anno 2007 -
in *these Outlook newsgroups*.

If this post only garners "brickbats", it's really of little ultimate
consequence to me at this point. Replies have been meagre; 'answers' seem to
be given with the minimum amount of care or effort; one asks a return
question to the volunteer 'helper' and then must sit through two
performances of "A season in h***", waiting and waiting for someone to
return to the post.

Meanwhile, one's post is literally buried under 80+ posts a day, which makes
it most unlikely one will ever achieve any satisfactory resolution to *any*
problem one might be experiencing with Outlook.

Reminds me of a newsgroup post I saw several years back:
"Useless site this is!"
All kinds of problems and no damn solutions, what is the
use of posting anything but a couple of jokes now and
then?"
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...865e9436e2afba

I happen to disagree with that poster regarding that particular newsgroup.
In it's halcyon days, that newsgroup really cooked and was one heck of a
great place. 10's of 10's of posts per day, if not more, and most were
addressed - by multiple persons - with generally great enthusiasm and care
and *expertise* (not some boilerplate / guessing game answer) which didn't
stop until a solution was arrived at. That makes it quite *unlike* these
Outlook newsgroups.

Addressing those who've placed fingers to keyboard to help me, I thank you.
However, - with some regret - I must sincerely say that said help has been
less than satisfactory. On the other hand, I count my blessing... at least
my post wasn't totally lost or *entirely* ignored. (Only partially ignored,
and only 9 days in the making to conclusively realize that no *real* help
will be forthcoming. lol)

To those of you with problems with Outlook, I wish you well and advise thus:
If you're in need of any help, I hope time isn't of the essence. This
newsgroup is a place which cries out to the adventuresome: "Good luck...
and be patient !" -- You'll need both !


  #2  
Old October 18th 07, 12:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
F. H. Muffman
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Posts: 263
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....

"Roxana" wrote in message
...
For a *single solitary program* that - for some reason - seems to create a
landslide of posts, this newsgroup is "understaffed", to say the very
least.
Many/most questions slip into the void... unaddressed. If there are any
replies, one must wait until h*** freezes over for a follow-up to the
'boiler-plate answer' which miraculously gets supplied.

"I" have been around these MS newsgroups since ~2002 and never have I
experienced a more unsatisfactory result that I see these days - anno
2007 -
in *these Outlook newsgroups*.



You are *more* than welcome to stick around and help other people too.

Or would you rather complain about the service at a volunteer staffed group
without being willing to help others as well?

--
f.h.

  #3  
Old October 18th 07, 12:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Roxana
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Posts: 24
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....

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"F. H. Muffman" wrote in message
...
"Roxana" wrote:
For a *single solitary program* that - for some reason - seems to create

a
landslide of posts, this newsgroup is "understaffed", to say the very
least.
Many/most questions slip into the void... unaddressed. If there are any
replies, one must wait until h*** freezes over for a follow-up to the
'boiler-plate answer' which miraculously gets supplied.

"I" have been around these MS newsgroups since ~2002 and never have I
experienced a more unsatisfactory result that I see these days - anno
2007 - in *these Outlook newsgroups*.



You are *more* than welcome to stick around and help other people too.


Thanks, I appreciate the welcome. :-) However, Outlook/Word is not my forte.
Were it so, I'd gladly help.

OTOH, I *have helped and have *1000's* of posts* - most to help - and a
number of which I posted to receive help (which is how I started in the MS
newgroups - probably as many/most persons had).
I'm just a person who has volunteered much of my time in areas where I am
proficient and haven't an MVP 'ribbon or perks'. Don't bother using "find"
to locate me to verify my claim; I have had several identities over the
years.

Or would you rather complain about the service at a volunteer staffed

group
without being willing to help others as well?


Answered above. And, I don't need to be reminded that these MS newsgroups
are *all* volunteer staffed; that most helpful enthusiasts who frequent the
myriad newsgroups lack possession of an MVP appellation. I didn't just fall
off a turnip wagon, y'know.

And you ? I see one post here and one in Outlook.General, today, though I've
been dumping and compacting the tons of overburden posts just so I can
quickly and readily find if someone has returned to follow through on their
"reply" to my one question.

Cheerio.

--
f.h.



  #4  
Old October 18th 07, 01:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Brian Tillman
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Posts: 17,452
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....

Roxana wrote:

And you ? I see one post here and one in Outlook.General, today,
though I've been dumping and compacting the tons of overburden posts
just so I can quickly and readily find if someone has returned to
follow through on their "reply" to my one question.


Muffman has been answering questions here for some time now and is an
accurate poster as well as frequent.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

  #5  
Old October 18th 07, 06:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
F. H. Muffman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 263
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....

"Roxana" wrote in message
...
For a *single solitary program* that - for some reason - seems to
create a
landslide of posts, this newsgroup is "understaffed", to say the very
least.
Many/most questions slip into the void... unaddressed. If there are any
replies, one must wait until h*** freezes over for a follow-up to the
'boiler-plate answer' which miraculously gets supplied.

"I" have been around these MS newsgroups since ~2002 and never have I
experienced a more unsatisfactory result that I see these days - anno
2007 - in *these Outlook newsgroups*.



You are *more* than welcome to stick around and help other people too.


Thanks, I appreciate the welcome. :-) However, Outlook/Word is not my
forte.
Were it so, I'd gladly help.

OTOH, I *have helped and have *1000's* of posts* - most to help - and a
number of which I posted to receive help (which is how I started in the MS
newgroups - probably as many/most persons had).


Did you actually look into that, or are you just guessing randomly? Unlike
most people, I know the value of statistics. I also know of people who have
posted thousands of posts *this year alone*, let alone in previous years
where 1000+ in a month was not an irregular occurance.

I'm just a person who has volunteered much of my time in areas where I am
proficient and haven't an MVP 'ribbon or perks'. Don't bother using "find"
to locate me to verify my claim; I have had several identities over the
years.

Or would you rather complain about the service at a volunteer staffed
group
without being willing to help others as well?


Answered above. And, I don't need to be reminded that these MS newsgroups
are *all* volunteer staffed; that most helpful enthusiasts who frequent
the
myriad newsgroups lack possession of an MVP appellation. I didn't just
fall
off a turnip wagon, y'know.


Well, since, as you said, you've posted under multiple names, just how would
one be able to know that?

And you ? I see one post here and one in Outlook.General, today, though
I've
been dumping and compacting the tons of overburden posts just so I can
quickly and readily find if someone has returned to follow through on
their
"reply" to my one question.


Well, unlike you, I've always posted under this name. So feel free to look
beyond today, since you so snidely suggested I've never helped anyone here.

And if you would like to nitpick *any* of my attempts to help people, feel
free. In fact, feel free to let me know what newsgroups you're currently
active in so I could happily return the favor.

Also, if I might make a suggestion, if you want to quickly and readily find
your threads, just click in the little eyeglass column to Watch the thread,
or go to Message - Watch Conversation. You could then sort by Watched
threads or even just create a new View to just show you Watched
conversations. It's a great feature of OE, made to make dealing with large,
busy newsgroups easier.

--
f.h.

  #6  
Old October 18th 07, 12:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,348
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....

It appears that the concept of peer to peer newsgroups is foreign to you.
Please explain what part of that concept you do not understand so we can
help with any misunderstanding you may have. The only posts that go
unanswered are those that contain too little information to permit a
response.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Roxana" wrote in message
...
For a *single solitary program* that - for some reason - seems to create a
landslide of posts, this newsgroup is "understaffed", to say the very
least.
Many/most questions slip into the void... unaddressed. If there are any
replies, one must wait until h*** freezes over for a follow-up to the
'boiler-plate answer' which miraculously gets supplied.

"I" have been around these MS newsgroups since ~2002 and never have I
experienced a more unsatisfactory result that I see these days - anno
2007 -
in *these Outlook newsgroups*.

If this post only garners "brickbats", it's really of little ultimate
consequence to me at this point. Replies have been meagre; 'answers' seem
to
be given with the minimum amount of care or effort; one asks a return
question to the volunteer 'helper' and then must sit through two
performances of "A season in h***", waiting and waiting for someone to
return to the post.

Meanwhile, one's post is literally buried under 80+ posts a day, which
makes
it most unlikely one will ever achieve any satisfactory resolution to
*any*
problem one might be experiencing with Outlook.

Reminds me of a newsgroup post I saw several years back:
"Useless site this is!"
All kinds of problems and no damn solutions, what is the
use of posting anything but a couple of jokes now and
then?"
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...865e9436e2afba

I happen to disagree with that poster regarding that particular newsgroup.
In it's halcyon days, that newsgroup really cooked and was one heck of a
great place. 10's of 10's of posts per day, if not more, and most were
addressed - by multiple persons - with generally great enthusiasm and care
and *expertise* (not some boilerplate / guessing game answer) which didn't
stop until a solution was arrived at. That makes it quite *unlike* these
Outlook newsgroups.

Addressing those who've placed fingers to keyboard to help me, I thank
you.
However, - with some regret - I must sincerely say that said help has been
less than satisfactory. On the other hand, I count my blessing... at least
my post wasn't totally lost or *entirely* ignored. (Only partially
ignored,
and only 9 days in the making to conclusively realize that no *real* help
will be forthcoming. lol)

To those of you with problems with Outlook, I wish you well and advise
thus:
If you're in need of any help, I hope time isn't of the essence. This
newsgroup is a place which cries out to the adventuresome: "Good luck...
and be patient !" -- You'll need both !



  #7  
Old October 18th 07, 12:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Roxana
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Posts: 24
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....and "customize" freezes.

I don't wish to be argumentative, but peer-to-peer newsgroups are *not*
foreign to me. MS newgroups are not foreign to me. If they were, I post in
*all caps*... I'd crosspost immediately (in 1 minute or less)... I'd "lose"
my post, not return, then post an identical one six times. Please spare me
that *inaccurate* assessment.

Now, what am I trying to find an answer to ? Here ya go Russ:
"Customize" freezes / *re-post* "customize" freezes.


Admittedly, I did *repost*.... after a two day wait - in the *first*
newsgroup I started in. Then, after two further days waiting, I posted in
"Outlook" newsgroup. That is precisely what I mean when I said that one gets
no follow-up to a question and process. If one must wait two-days for every
single query posited.... My word !

Now, I realize you are not familir with my post and my method, but I believe
I stated from the get-go what the problem was/ which version of Outlook is
in use, and even which OS it is being used in.

At the risk of being redundant, I've 1000's of posts in multitudes of MS
newsgroups and I don't use the MS-CDO web-based newsgroup reader (or
whatever MS has now favored to replace that earlier monstrosity with). I
believed I supplied enough basically required info to give someone a
headstart on helping.

Thank you Russ.
Roxana

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
news
It appears that the concept of peer to peer newsgroups is foreign to you.
Please explain what part of that concept you do not understand so we can
help with any misunderstanding you may have. The only posts that go
unanswered are those that contain too little information to permit a
response.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Roxana" wrote in message
...
For a *single solitary program* that - for some reason - seems to create

a
landslide of posts, this newsgroup is "understaffed", to say the very
least.
Many/most questions slip into the void... unaddressed. If there are any
replies, one must wait until h*** freezes over for a follow-up to the
'boiler-plate answer' which miraculously gets supplied.

"I" have been around these MS newsgroups since ~2002 and never have I
experienced a more unsatisfactory result that I see these days - anno
2007 -
in *these Outlook newsgroups*.

If this post only garners "brickbats", it's really of little ultimate
consequence to me at this point. Replies have been meagre; 'answers'

seem
to
be given with the minimum amount of care or effort; one asks a return
question to the volunteer 'helper' and then must sit through two
performances of "A season in h***", waiting and waiting for someone to
return to the post.

Meanwhile, one's post is literally buried under 80+ posts a day, which
makes
it most unlikely one will ever achieve any satisfactory resolution to
*any*
problem one might be experiencing with Outlook.

Reminds me of a newsgroup post I saw several years back:
"Useless site this is!"
All kinds of problems and no damn solutions, what is the
use of posting anything but a couple of jokes now and
then?"

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...865e9436e2afba

I happen to disagree with that poster regarding that particular

newsgroup.
In it's halcyon days, that newsgroup really cooked and was one heck of a
great place. 10's of 10's of posts per day, if not more, and most were
addressed - by multiple persons - with generally great enthusiasm and

care
and *expertise* (not some boilerplate / guessing game answer) which

didn't
stop until a solution was arrived at. That makes it quite *unlike* these
Outlook newsgroups.

Addressing those who've placed fingers to keyboard to help me, I thank
you.
However, - with some regret - I must sincerely say that said help has

been
less than satisfactory. On the other hand, I count my blessing... at

least
my post wasn't totally lost or *entirely* ignored. (Only partially
ignored,
and only 9 days in the making to conclusively realize that no *real*

help
will be forthcoming. lol)

To those of you with problems with Outlook, I wish you well and advise
thus:
If you're in need of any help, I hope time isn't of the essence. This
newsgroup is a place which cries out to the adventuresome: "Good

luck...
and be patient !" -- You'll need both !





  #8  
Old October 18th 07, 01:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Roxana
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Posts: 24
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....and "customize" freezes.

Oops; forgot the "news:" part. My apologies:


"Roxana" wrote in message ...
Now, what am I trying to find an answer to ? Here ya go Russ:
"Customize" freezes / *re-post* "customize" freezes.


snipped
Thank you Russ.
Roxana

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
news
It appears that the concept of peer to peer newsgroups is foreign to

you.
Please explain what part of that concept you do not understand so we can
help with any misunderstanding you may have. The only posts that go
unanswered are those that contain too little information to permit a
response.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Roxana" wrote in message
...

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  #9  
Old October 18th 07, 02:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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Posts: 9,348
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....and "customize" freezes.

Just so I understand. This tantrum was all because of a post that was not
answered for a problem you encountered while running Windows 98?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Roxana" wrote in message
...
Oops; forgot the "news:" part. My apologies:


"Roxana" wrote in message ...
Now, what am I trying to find an answer to ? Here ya go Russ:
"Customize" freezes / *re-post* "customize" freezes.


snipped
Thank you Russ.
Roxana

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
news
It appears that the concept of peer to peer newsgroups is foreign to

you.
Please explain what part of that concept you do not understand so we
can
help with any misunderstanding you may have. The only posts that go
unanswered are those that contain too little information to permit a
response.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Roxana" wrote in message
...

snipped



  #10  
Old October 18th 07, 02:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook
Roxana
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 24
Default About Outlook and this newsgroup....and "customize" freezes.

Firstly, I clearly wrote W98se, and not W98. Try reading a bit more
carefully mate.

Secondly, I have had Office XP/Outlook 2002/Word 2002/ Excel and Publlisher
and W98se installed on what was a then brand new computer and had no
problems with software/OS from the jump-start.......

So, if you're trying to make some snide remark about some alleged
incompatibility between W98SE and Office XP / Outlook 2002, you'd better run
rabbits, eat dirt and bark at the moon, OK ?

And for your info, I dual-boot W98SE-SP1 and WinXP Pro- SP2, so lay off with
your insinuation that I am in the stone age with my PC. (Isn't the fastest
on earth, but is a P4 2.0 GHz with 1 GB Sdram and two 500 GB HD-Ds)

And finally, but most importantly, you have clearly misunderstood. *period*

Goodbye.*plonk*

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Just so I understand. This tantrum was all because of a post that was not
answered for a problem you encountered while running Windows 98?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]


"Roxana" wrote in message

...
Now, what am I trying to find an answer to ? Here ya go Russ:
"Customize" freezes / *re-post* "customize" freezes.


snipped
Thank you Russ.
Roxana

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
news It appears that the concept of peer to peer newsgroups is foreign to

you.
Please explain what part of that concept you do not understand so we
can
help with any misunderstanding you may have. The only posts that go
unanswered are those that contain too little information to permit a
response.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Roxana" wrote in message
...

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