In KB892448 "When you use Outlook to delete Hotmail messages or MSN
messages, the deleted messages do not appear in the Trash Can of the
Hotmail account or the MSN account" it states: "In an Outlook profile
where there is no Exchange e-mail account, the Hotmail e-mail account
or the MSN e-mail account is the primary account. Therefore, all
deleted messages are sent to the Deleted Items folder of the
appropriate account. This behavior occurs regardless of whether the
account is a primary account or a secondary account."

My question is: How do I set up an Outlook profile with no Exchange e-
mail account? I need my Hotmail (MSN Premium) account to be the
Primary account (the only account for now). I also do not need
connectivity to MSN Explorer, and would rarely if ever access my e-
mail via the web. I just want Outlook to be my only PIM.

Thank You,
Green

Green wrote:

My question is: How do I set up an Outlook profile with no Exchange e-
mail account? I need my Hotmail (MSN Premium) account to be the
Primary account (the only account for now). I also do not need
connectivity to MSN Explorer, and would rarely if ever access my e-
mail via the web. I just want Outlook to be my only PIM.

The only way to do that, as far as I know, is to use Outlook Live and the
Outlook Connector.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...ive2005PR.mspx
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/mool.htm . This will make Outlook behave
as though it is connected to an Exchange mailbox, right down to creating an
OST.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

On Feb 22, 2:53*pm, "Brian Tillman" wrote:
Green wrote:
My question is: How do I set up an Outlook profile with no Exchange e-
mail account? *I need my Hotmail (MSN Premium) account to be the
Primary account (the only account for now). *I also do not need
connectivity to MSN Explorer, and would rarely if ever access my e-
mail via the web. *I just want Outlook to be my only PIM.

The only way to do that, as far as I know, is to use Outlook Live and the
Outlook Connector.http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...tlook/mool.htm. *This will make Outlook behave
as though it is connected to an Exchange mailbox, right down to creating an
OST.
--
Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

I'm afraid you've lost me. I don't know what an OST is. For that
matter, I need to get a better basic understanding of e-mail account
types, because Microsoft keeps expanding the jargon. What is the
difference between an Exchange account and a web-based? (I know the
basic differences between POP3 and web-based, or HTTP).

Second, your potential solutions seem slanted toward having
connectivity. I don't need it. I will only use Outlook. On the
extremely rare circumstance that I need to access my mail via
Hotmail.com, I won't care much about flagging, etc. not transferring
back to Outlook.

Are you saying that Outlook 2003 wasn't built to set up one HTTP type
account, and use it as primary? Why do they state: "In an Outlook
profile
where there is no Exchange e-mail account, the Hotmail e-mail account
or the MSN e-mail account is the primary account." ?

Thanks Again,
Green

Green wrote:
In KB892448 "When you use Outlook to delete Hotmail messages or MSN
messages, the deleted messages do not appear in the Trash Can of the
Hotmail account or the MSN account" it states: "In an Outlook profile
where there is no Exchange e-mail account, the Hotmail e-mail account
or the MSN e-mail account is the primary account. Therefore, all
deleted messages are sent to the Deleted Items folder of the
appropriate account. This behavior occurs regardless of whether the
account is a primary account or a secondary account."

My question is: How do I set up an Outlook profile with no Exchange e-
mail account? I need my Hotmail (MSN Premium) account to be the
Primary account (the only account for now). I also do not need
connectivity to MSN Explorer, and would rarely if ever access my e-
mail via the web. I just want Outlook to be my only PIM.

Thank You,
Green

Green,

I'm using Outlook 2002, and am able to setup an account with my hotmail
account. I used "HTTP" with the HTTP service provider "Hotmail", using
my email address as my user name and my password, well, as my password.
Does Outlook 2003 lose this functionality?

Beege

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Green,

I'm using Outlook 2002, and am able to setup an account with my hotmail
account. I used "HTTP" with the HTTP service provider "Hotmail", using
my email address as my user name and my password, well, as my password.
Does Outlook 2003 lose this functionality?

Beege

By the way, I'm much happier not using Outlook, but Thunderbird for my
PIM. Has good calendar and reminder plugin, and a newsreader for usenet.

beege

"Beege" wrote in message
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I'm using Outlook 2002, and am able to setup an account with my hotmail
account. I used "HTTP" with the HTTP service provider "Hotmail", using my
email address as my user name and my password, well, as my password. Does
Outlook 2003 lose this functionality?

No, it's Hotmail that has lost the functionality. You are lucky in that you
(presumably) have a legacy account. Any new account will NOT work like that
unless a) it is a Hotmail Live account and b) the Outlook Connector is
installed which will only work on 2003 and 2007 AFAIK...

On Feb 23, 3:31*pm, "Gordon" wrote:
"Beege" wrote in message

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I'm using Outlook 2002, and am able to setup an account with my hotmail
account. I used "HTTP" with the HTTP service provider "Hotmail", using my
email address as my user name and my password, well, as my password. Does
Outlook 2003 lose this functionality?

No, it's Hotmail that has lost the functionality. You are lucky in that you
(presumably) have a legacy account. Any new account will NOT work like that
unless a) it is a Hotmail Live account and b) the Outlook Connector is
installed which will only work on 2003 and 2007 AFAIK...

The functionality I'm after is to create an Outlook Profile where the
MSN (or Hotmail) account is the Primary account. I have a profile
where I've added the MSN (HTTP) account, but Outlook 2003 forces it to
secondary account status - even when the so called primary account is
blank! In other words, if I create abrand new profile, and the ONLY
account I set up is HTTP, Outlook creates two Inboxes: the default
(empty) Inbox, and a secondary MSN/Hotmail/HTTP Inbox. This causes a
problem with my PDA software, which will only connect to the Primary
Inbox (primary account).

Beege, with your setup, do you have only one Inbox?

On Feb 23, 3:31*pm, "Gordon" wrote:
"Beege" wrote in message

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I'm using Outlook 2002, and am able to setup an account with my hotmail
account. I used "HTTP" with the HTTP service provider "Hotmail", using my
email address as my user name and my password, well, as my password. Does
Outlook 2003 lose this functionality?

No, it's Hotmail that has lost the functionality. You are lucky in that you
(presumably) have a legacy account. Any new account will NOT work like that
unless a) it is a Hotmail Live account and b) the Outlook Connector is
installed which will only work on 2003 and 2007 AFAIK...

The functionality I'm after is to create an Outlook Profile where the
MSN (or Hotmail) account is the Primary account. I have a profile
where I've added the MSN (HTTP) account, but Outlook 2003 forces it
to
secondary account status - even when the so called primary account is
blank! In other words, if I create abrand new profile, and the ONLY
account I set up is HTTP, Outlook creates two Inboxes: the default
(empty) Inbox, and a secondary MSN/Hotmail/HTTP Inbox. This causes a
problem with my PDA software, which will only connect to the Primary
Inbox (primary account).

Beege, with your setup, do you have only one Inbox?

Gordon, my account is MSN Premium, comes with my Qwest High Speed
Internet (DSL).

"Green" wrote in message
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The functionality I'm after is to create an Outlook Profile where the
MSN (or Hotmail) account is the Primary account. I have a profile
where I've added the MSN (HTTP) account, but Outlook 2003 forces it to
secondary account status - even when the so called primary account is
blank! In other words, if I create abrand new profile, and the ONLY
account I set up is HTTP, Outlook creates two Inboxes: the default
(empty) Inbox, and a secondary MSN/Hotmail/HTTP Inbox.

That's the way it works. Period. You CAN set up a rule to move emails
received in the MSN mailbox to the Local Folders Inbox AFAIK....

Gordon in 7 wrote:
That's the way it works. Period. You CAN set up a rule to move emails
received in the MSN mailbox to the Local Folders Inbox AFAIK....

I've heard about setting up a rule, but let me restate from my initial
post:

In KB892448...it states: "In an Outlook profile
where there is no Exchange e-mail account, the Hotmail e-mail account
or the MSN e-mail account is the primary account. ...This behavior occurs regardless of whether the account is a primary account or a secondary account."

Why would Microsoft make that statement?