How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format in which
the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.

Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in a mail
item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to change.

Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact the IE
engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open the link in the
default browser, or better yet a menu of the installed browsers - which in
my case would be IE8, Firefox3, Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox

Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as one. If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links are clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set Program Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I looked,
I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows Live
Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP. The only
import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and Eudora, I'm
surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports importation of Exchange,
Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats (no non MS formats, but all
the MS formats of which I am aware). Are there any addons that will read
Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import there.
For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import vcf's - but
one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at a time works
fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the default
browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps were as well
behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a link
to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password whereupon the
item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my inbox, delete it, or
blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook. Which
in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to Document
Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is right there in
front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do that with a
LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the browser may not be
running, which means I have to wait for it to load, perhaps wait while it
installs some extension updates, decide whether or not I want to restore
yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten why I am where I am..
Alternatively the browser might be in the middle of a large non restartable
download from a site that forbids download managers, in that circumstance
I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in order to deal with a potentially
junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout engine
into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why did they
make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and goodness knows
what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web toolbar? I suggest
they did all that so that fools like me could use a browser from within
their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey do a mail client in their
browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser in their mail client - it
actually make more sense to me, than the mail in a browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells like
a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser. Albeit
not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction, resulting from
a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's built in browser in
preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that are
compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as one.
If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links are
clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set Program
Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

you'll want to export to exchange format - that is outlook. no idea why they
call it exchange, not outlook though.

browsing capabilities was added to outlook years ago when someone thought it
would be a good idea- then they discovered its not secure and businesses
wanted more control over employees browsing habits. they can't remove the
hooks because they need it for outlook today and folder homepages but they
do have it locked down some.

FWIW, I've never had problems disturbing downloads when I use tabbed
browsing.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I
looked, I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows Live
Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP. The only
import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and Eudora, I'm
surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports importation of
Exchange, Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats (no non MS
formats, but all the MS formats of which I am aware). Are there any
addons that will read Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import there.
For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import vcf's - but
one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at a time works
fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the default
browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps were as
well behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a
link to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password whereupon
the item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my inbox, delete
it, or blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook. Which
in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to Document
Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is right there in
front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do that with a
LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the browser may not
be running, which means I have to wait for it to load, perhaps wait while
it installs some extension updates, decide whether or not I want to
restore yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten why I am where I
am.. Alternatively the browser might be in the middle of a large non
restartable download from a site that forbids download managers, in that
circumstance I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in order to deal with a
potentially junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout
engine into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why
did they make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and
goodness knows what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web
toolbar? I suggest they did all that so that fools like me could use a
browser from within their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey do
a mail client in their browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser in
their mail client - it actually make more sense to me, than the mail in a
browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells
like a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser.
Albeit not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction,
resulting from a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's built
in browser in preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that
are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as one.
If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links are
clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set Program
Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

Thank you -

OK I export from Windows Live Mail using the
File-Export-Messages-Microsoft Exchange (the confirm dialogue does in
fact say MS Exchange and MS Outlook), I select the folders I wanted
exported - basically everything except some feeds, news stuff etc, I
expected to be asked where I'd like the output stored, but no -- it went
off with fast moving progress bars for a few minutes and ended - gracefully.

I cant see anything in my documents folder, nor in WLMails Mail Store - but
I am not sure what it is I'm looking for.

I looked for pst's but Locate32 only finds two fairly small ones in
C:\Documents and Settings\myname\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook\. Search Assist finds the same .pst's in the same
locations.

When I export in WLMail format, (ie .eml's) then I am asked for an output
folder name and then I get to select which folders, and then the fast moving
progress bars do there stuff and I get everything dumped into the folder I
specified. I ran a before after snapshot of my drives and I can see where
the exported data is written down to the specific sector.

When I export in Exchange format then as far as I can tell WLMail is not
writing anything, its reading its mail store but its not writing anything
according to the disk snap shots and looking at the file handles with
Process Explorer I can se anything that looks like file writes. and the
export to Exchange is quite a lost faster than the export to eml files -
because its not actually writing anything I suspect.

I'll shake the rattle over at m.p.w.live.mail.desktop and see if one of
those guys knows what the story is with export to Exchange.

Outlook as a browser : I think it's the word that worries some people -
browser. In the context of Outlook I see it as a transactor, whereas in the
context of the WordWeb applet I use - I see it as a finder. I appreciate
the attitudes of the corporate world, I was in it for long enough - but I
brike free, or rather they pensioned me off.

On the issue of long downloads etc, when I say long I mean several hours
over a flaky satellite link with a single stream, believe me you don't want
to disturb the browser. Here in the city I have 20Mps to the exchange about
600m distance, nothings a problem. If I do do long downloads over the sat
link and I just have to do some browsing then I just use a different
browser.
--
TUT

"Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've
forgotten this before." Steven Wright
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
you'll want to export to exchange format - that is outlook. no idea why
they call it exchange, not outlook though.

browsing capabilities was added to outlook years ago when someone thought
it would be a good idea- then they discovered its not secure and
businesses wanted more control over employees browsing habits. they can't
remove the hooks because they need it for outlook today and folder
homepages but they do have it locked down some.

FWIW, I've never had problems disturbing downloads when I use tabbed
browsing.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I
looked, I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows
Live Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP.
The only import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and
Eudora, I'm surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports
importation of Exchange, Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats
(no non MS formats, but all the MS formats of which I am aware). Are
there any addons that will read Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import
there. For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import
vcf's - but one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at
a time works fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the default
browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps were as
well behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a
link to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password
whereupon the item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my
inbox, delete it, or blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete
it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook.
Which in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to
Document Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is right
there in front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do that
with a LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the browser
may not be running, which means I have to wait for it to load, perhaps
wait while it installs some extension updates, decide whether or not I
want to restore yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten why I am
where I am.. Alternatively the browser might be in the middle of a large
non restartable download from a site that forbids download managers, in
that circumstance I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in order to deal
with a potentially junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout
engine into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why
did they make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and
goodness knows what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web
toolbar? I suggest they did all that so that fools like me could use a
browser from within their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey do
a mail client in their browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser in
their mail client - it actually make more sense to me, than the mail in a
browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells
like a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser.
Albeit not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction,
resulting from a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's built
in browser in preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that
are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one. If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links are
clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set Program
Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

I discovered this real cool way of doing bulk vcf imports into Outlook - you
open up your folderful of vcards then you get your mouse ...... and drop
them into to your contacts list.

I thought that life wasn't meant to be easy, at least that's what Malcolm
said.
--
TUT

"Irrationally held truths may be more harmful than reasoned errors." Niels
Bohr

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I
looked, I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows Live
Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP. The only
import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and Eudora, I'm
surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports importation of
Exchange, Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats (no non MS
formats, but all the MS formats of which I am aware). Are there any
addons that will read Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import there.
For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import vcf's - but
one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at a time works
fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the default
browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps were as
well behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a
link to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password whereupon
the item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my inbox, delete
it, or blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook. Which
in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to Document
Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is right there in
front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do that with a
LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the browser may not
be running, which means I have to wait for it to load, perhaps wait while
it installs some extension updates, decide whether or not I want to
restore yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten why I am where I
am.. Alternatively the browser might be in the middle of a large non
restartable download from a site that forbids download managers, in that
circumstance I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in order to deal with a
potentially junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout
engine into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why
did they make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and
goodness knows what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web
toolbar? I suggest they did all that so that fools like me could use a
browser from within their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey do
a mail client in their browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser in
their mail client - it actually make more sense to me, than the mail in a
browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells
like a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser.
Albeit not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction,
resulting from a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's built
in browser in preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that
are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as one.
If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links are
clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set Program
Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

When you export into Outlook, you aren't given a choice where to put it -
they copy the layout of the LM mailbox. It's moved into the Outlook PST
file which is used by your Outlook profile. The default location is in the
outlook folder under app data. You can look for the path while in your
outlook profile- check either file, data file management or tools, accounts.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thank you -

OK I export from Windows Live Mail using the
File-Export-Messages-Microsoft Exchange (the confirm dialogue does in
fact say MS Exchange and MS Outlook), I select the folders I wanted
exported - basically everything except some feeds, news stuff etc, I
expected to be asked where I'd like the output stored, but no -- it went
off with fast moving progress bars for a few minutes and ended -
gracefully.

I cant see anything in my documents folder, nor in WLMails Mail Store -
but I am not sure what it is I'm looking for.

I looked for pst's but Locate32 only finds two fairly small ones in
C:\Documents and Settings\myname\Local Settings\Application
Data\Microsoft\Outlook\. Search Assist finds the same .pst's in the same
locations.

When I export in WLMail format, (ie .eml's) then I am asked for an output
folder name and then I get to select which folders, and then the fast
moving progress bars do there stuff and I get everything dumped into the
folder I specified. I ran a before after snapshot of my drives and I can
see where the exported data is written down to the specific sector.

When I export in Exchange format then as far as I can tell WLMail is not
writing anything, its reading its mail store but its not writing anything
according to the disk snap shots and looking at the file handles with
Process Explorer I can se anything that looks like file writes. and the
export to Exchange is quite a lost faster than the export to eml files -
because its not actually writing anything I suspect.

I'll shake the rattle over at m.p.w.live.mail.desktop and see if one of
those guys knows what the story is with export to Exchange.

Outlook as a browser : I think it's the word that worries some people -
browser. In the context of Outlook I see it as a transactor, whereas in
the context of the WordWeb applet I use - I see it as a finder. I
appreciate the attitudes of the corporate world, I was in it for long
enough - but I brike free, or rather they pensioned me off.

On the issue of long downloads etc, when I say long I mean several hours
over a flaky satellite link with a single stream, believe me you don't
want to disturb the browser. Here in the city I have 20Mps to the
exchange about 600m distance, nothings a problem. If I do do long
downloads over the sat link and I just have to do some browsing then I
just use a different browser.
--
TUT

"Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time. I think I've
forgotten this before." Steven Wright
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote in message
...
you'll want to export to exchange format - that is outlook. no idea why
they call it exchange, not outlook though.

browsing capabilities was added to outlook years ago when someone thought
it would be a good idea- then they discovered its not secure and
businesses wanted more control over employees browsing habits. they can't
remove the hooks because they need it for outlook today and folder
homepages but they do have it locked down some.

FWIW, I've never had problems disturbing downloads when I use tabbed
browsing.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point
your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I
looked, I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows
Live Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP. The
only import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and Eudora,
I'm surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports importation of
Exchange, Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats (no non MS
formats, but all the MS formats of which I am aware). Are there any
addons that will read Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import
there. For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import
vcf's - but one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at
a time works fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the
default browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps
were as well behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a
link to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password
whereupon the item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my
inbox, delete it, or blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete
it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook.
Which in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to
Document Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is
right there in front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do
that with a LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the
browser may not be running, which means I have to wait for it to load,
perhaps wait while it installs some extension updates, decide whether or
not I want to restore yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten
why I am where I am.. Alternatively the browser might be in the middle
of a large non restartable download from a site that forbids download
managers, in that circumstance I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in
order to deal with a potentially junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout
engine into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why
did they make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and
goodness knows what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web
toolbar? I suggest they did all that so that fools like me could use a
browser from within their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey
do a mail client in their browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser
in their mail client - it actually make more sense to me, than the mail
in a browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells
like a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser.
Albeit not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction,
resulting from a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's
built in browser in preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep
your foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that
are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one. If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links
are clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set
Program Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

I never realized that browsing with Outlook was not secure. I also use the
favorites and web toolbar in Outlook sometimes.
My question: it's the same browser as IE I suppose, so why can it be
insecure?

Jan Kuipers

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" schreef in bericht
...
you'll want to export to exchange format - that is outlook. no idea why
they call it exchange, not outlook though.

browsing capabilities was added to outlook years ago when someone thought
it would be a good idea- then they discovered its not secure and
businesses wanted more control over employees browsing habits. they can't
remove the hooks because they need it for outlook today and folder
homepages but they do have it locked down some.

FWIW, I've never had problems disturbing downloads when I use tabbed
browsing.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I
looked, I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows
Live Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP.
The only import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and
Eudora, I'm surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports
importation of Exchange, Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats
(no non MS formats, but all the MS formats of which I am aware). Are
there any addons that will read Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import
there. For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import
vcf's - but one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at
a time works fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the default
browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps were as
well behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a
link to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password
whereupon the item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my
inbox, delete it, or blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete
it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook.
Which in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to
Document Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is right
there in front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do that
with a LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the browser
may not be running, which means I have to wait for it to load, perhaps
wait while it installs some extension updates, decide whether or not I
want to restore yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten why I am
where I am.. Alternatively the browser might be in the middle of a large
non restartable download from a site that forbids download managers, in
that circumstance I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in order to deal
with a potentially junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout
engine into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why
did they make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and
goodness knows what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web
toolbar? I suggest they did all that so that fools like me could use a
browser from within their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey do
a mail client in their browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser in
their mail client - it actually make more sense to me, than the mail in a
browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells
like a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser.
Albeit not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction,
resulting from a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's built
in browser in preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your
foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that
are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one. If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links are
clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set Program
Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

Because its in Outlook, it uses the local security zone, not internet zone.
Some features are disabled so pages won't look right in it - but that makes
it more secure.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Jan Kuipers" wrote in message
...
I never realized that browsing with Outlook was not secure. I also use the
favorites and web toolbar in Outlook sometimes.
My question: it's the same browser as IE I suppose, so why can it be
insecure?

Jan Kuipers

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" schreef in bericht
...
you'll want to export to exchange format - that is outlook. no idea why
they call it exchange, not outlook though.

browsing capabilities was added to outlook years ago when someone thought
it would be a good idea- then they discovered its not secure and
businesses wanted more control over employees browsing habits. they can't
remove the hooks because they need it for outlook today and folder
homepages but they do have it locked down some.

FWIW, I've never had problems disturbing downloads when I use tabbed
browsing.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point
your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Urbane Tiger" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the feedback, BTW I did not do much head scratching - I
looked, I could not see, so I asked for guidance.

Re : Migration,

WLMail can export messages in Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft Windows
Live Mail formats, the latter is the .eml format mentioned in my OP. The
only import formats I can see in Outlook are Outlook Express and Eudora,
I'm surprised its such a sparse list. WLMail supports importation of
Exchange, Outlook, OE, Windows Mail and its own formats (no non MS
formats, but all the MS formats of which I am aware). Are there any
addons that will read Exchange format messages into Outlook..

With respect to accounts, I can do those by hand no need for import
there. For Contacts WLMail can produce .vcf's and Outlook can import
vcf's - but one at a time, is there a bulk import for vcf's - the one at
a time works fine, but it's a bit tedious.

Re Browser

Firstly, Outlook invoked Firefox "out of the box", I did not have to do
anything to make that happen. That's because Outlook invokes the
default browser, which is exactly what it should do -- I wish all apps
were as well behaved in this regard.

I get quite a lot of emails that require the completion of a simple
transaction over HTTP. For example, my mail service provider sends a
message when they quarantine a suspected spam item; the message has a
link to their spam filter login page, I enter my id and password
whereupon the item header is displayed, I can elect to move it to my
inbox, delete it, or blacklist the sender and/or domain and then delete
it.

I'd like to conclude the transaction within the context of Outlook.
Which in fact I can, RightClick-CopyLink on the link, move mouse to
Document Location, RightClick-Paste, hit Enter - bingo the page is
right there in front of me. I was wondering if I could get Outlook do
that with a LeftClick, rather than invoking my browser. Firstly the
browser may not be running, which means I have to wait for it to load,
perhaps wait while it installs some extension updates, decide whether or
not I want to restore yesterdays session, by which time I've forgotten
why I am where I am.. Alternatively the browser might be in the middle
of a large non restartable download from a site that forbids download
managers, in that circumstance I'd prefer not to disturb the browser in
order to deal with a potentially junk email.

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one

That begs the question, why did MSFT put hooks to the Trident layout
engine into Outlook, why did they make Outlook, HTML and HTTP aware, why
did they make Outlook capable of hosting Flash and Silverlight and
goodness knows what else, and why did they endow Outlook with a Web
toolbar? I suggest they did all that so that fools like me could use a
browser from within their email client. After all Opera and Seamonkey
do a mail client in their browsers, so why shouldn't MSFT do a browser
in their mail client - it actually make more sense to me, than the mail
in a browser trick

I don't mean any offence, but I suggest if looks like a browser, smells
like a browser, and walks like a browser, then it probably is a browser.
Albeit not one in which I'd go surfing, but for a quick interaction,
resulting from a link in an email.- even by hand I'll use Outlook's
built in browser in preference going into a fully fledged browser.
--
TUT

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep
your foot on first." -- Frederick Wilcox
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" What@ever wrote in message
...
Outlook cannot read .eml files. What export options does WLM have that
are compatible with Outlook?

As for Outlook as a web browser, it is not one nor should be used as
one. If you are asking how to make FF the default browser when links
are clicked in Outlook, Control Panel-Add/Remove Programs-Set
Program Access and Default.


--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, Urbane Tiger asked:

| How can I import ".eml" files into Outlook 2007, this is the format
| in which the Windows Live Mail client keeps mail messages.
|
| Can I get Outlook to bring up it's browser when I click on a link in
| a mail item. My default browser is Firefox, and that's not going to
| change.
|
| Ideally I'd like the built in browser (which I appreciate is in fact
| the IE engine) be used, with an option via the context menu to open
| the link in the default browser, or better yet a menu of the
| installed browsers - which in my case would be IE8, Firefox3,
| Opera9.5 and Maxthon2.1.2.

I see. But I've noticed that restricted websites (set in IE) are restricted
in Outlook too. But it uses nevertheless the local security zone (my
computer)?

Jan Kuipers

"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" schreef in bericht
...
Because its in Outlook, it uses the local security zone, not internet
zone. Some features are disabled so pages won't look right in it - but
that makes it more secure.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/
Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/

Outlook Tips by email:


EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:


Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com

You can access this newsgroup by visiting
http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your
newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com.


"Jan Kuipers" wrote in message
...
I never realized that browsing with Outlook was not secure. I also use
the favorites and web toolbar in Outlook sometimes.
My question: it's the same browser as IE I suppose, so why can it be
insecure?

Jan Kuipers