Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade. It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took your and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade. It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook 2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Sorry, I'll go through it step by step to the best of my memory. It's pretty
similar to simkin's post.

1. I had outlook 2003 set up with an exchange connection which auto archived
my older mail to 2 pst files.
2. I installed 2007 and selected upgrade.
3. When I opened up outlook it went through the "migrating account settings"
spiel and then just hung with no error messages until I killed the process.
None of the other 2007 apps had any problems.
4. After messing with this awhile I went into the mail configuration in
control panel and deleted the 2 pst files off of my mail profile.
5. This let outlook open and function as normal but when I tried adding the
pst files back to my profile in the control panel app or through data file
management in outlook it caused it to hang again.
6. I tried creating a new mail profile in the control panel app and
associated it with a new ost file (I tried this with the one that outlook
initially created and it does not work) and once my mail resynched with
exchange I tried adding my pst files in outlook and it worked fine.

I looked through my error logs and did find one error. Hopefully this means
something to someone.

EventType offdiag12, P1
f8a78357-e48c-458e-8849-d14ea44739c770833cf6-e11c-4de3-ad51-caadb50e6ac6, P2
NIL, P3 NIL, P4 NIL, P5 NIL, P6 NIL, P7 NIL, P8 NIL, P9 NIL, P10 NIL.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook 2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

PMJI, but where were these .pst files located? Not on a network drive, are they?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Brent Mills" wrote in message ...
Sorry, I'll go through it step by step to the best of my memory. It's pretty
similar to simkin's post.

1. I had outlook 2003 set up with an exchange connection which auto archived
my older mail to 2 pst files.
2. I installed 2007 and selected upgrade.
3. When I opened up outlook it went through the "migrating account settings"
spiel and then just hung with no error messages until I killed the process.
None of the other 2007 apps had any problems.
4. After messing with this awhile I went into the mail configuration in
control panel and deleted the 2 pst files off of my mail profile.
5. This let outlook open and function as normal but when I tried adding the
pst files back to my profile in the control panel app or through data file
management in outlook it caused it to hang again.
6. I tried creating a new mail profile in the control panel app and
associated it with a new ost file (I tried this with the one that outlook
initially created and it does not work) and once my mail resynched with
exchange I tried adding my pst files in outlook and it worked fine.

I looked through my error logs and did find one error. Hopefully this means
something to someone.

EventType offdiag12, P1
f8a78357-e48c-458e-8849-d14ea44739c770833cf6-e11c-4de3-ad51-caadb50e6ac6, P2
NIL, P3 NIL, P4 NIL, P5 NIL, P6 NIL, P7 NIL, P8 NIL, P9 NIL, P10 NIL.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook 2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Sorry, I forgot you had asked this. They're on my local drive.

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

PMJI, but where were these .pst files located? Not on a network drive, are they?

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Brent Mills" wrote in message ...
Sorry, I'll go through it step by step to the best of my memory. It's pretty
similar to simkin's post.

1. I had outlook 2003 set up with an exchange connection which auto archived
my older mail to 2 pst files.
2. I installed 2007 and selected upgrade.
3. When I opened up outlook it went through the "migrating account settings"
spiel and then just hung with no error messages until I killed the process.
None of the other 2007 apps had any problems.
4. After messing with this awhile I went into the mail configuration in
control panel and deleted the 2 pst files off of my mail profile.
5. This let outlook open and function as normal but when I tried adding the
pst files back to my profile in the control panel app or through data file
management in outlook it caused it to hang again.
6. I tried creating a new mail profile in the control panel app and
associated it with a new ost file (I tried this with the one that outlook
initially created and it does not work) and once my mail resynched with
exchange I tried adding my pst files in outlook and it worked fine.

I looked through my error logs and did find one error. Hopefully this means
something to someone.

EventType offdiag12, P1
f8a78357-e48c-458e-8849-d14ea44739c770833cf6-e11c-4de3-ad51-caadb50e6ac6, P2
NIL, P3 NIL, P4 NIL, P5 NIL, P6 NIL, P7 NIL, P8 NIL, P9 NIL, P10 NIL.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook 2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Just to clarify, I do mean ost files. I think outlook 2003 used pst files to
store offline exchange content (plz correct me if I'm wrong) but 2007 seems
to use an ost file for this purpose.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook 2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Dead wrong. Offline Exchange content has always been stored in OST files,
never PST files. Most Exchange administrators do not even want PST files in
their users' profiles.
You need to understand what you're doing and what you're saying. Once you
do, if you think you have a beta issue, post it clearly and accurately. This
looks like end user error that has nothing to do with the beta.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Just to clarify, I do mean ost files. I think outlook 2003 used pst files
to
store offline exchange content (plz correct me if I'm wrong) but 2007
seems
to use an ost file for this purpose.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook
2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and
removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took
your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new
profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to
upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually
the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did
to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in
message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to
archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Ok, I couldn't remember if it used ost files or not. I'll let you tell our
server administrators that we can't use pst files so we need more space on
the server. It seems you view me as an idiotic user that doesn't know what
I'm doing. I personally don't care what you think of me but I'm not sure how
you equate this with user error. If I try to use outlook after the beta
installation is complete it crashes. If I create a different profile and use
a blank ost file then it will let me use my pst files and doesn't crash. At
least one other person has the same issue. If I knew why this was I would
probably be working for microsoft.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Dead wrong. Offline Exchange content has always been stored in OST files,
never PST files. Most Exchange administrators do not even want PST files in
their users' profiles.
You need to understand what you're doing and what you're saying. Once you
do, if you think you have a beta issue, post it clearly and accurately. This
looks like end user error that has nothing to do with the beta.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Just to clarify, I do mean ost files. I think outlook 2003 used pst files
to
store offline exchange content (plz correct me if I'm wrong) but 2007
seems
to use an ost file for this purpose.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an Outlook
2003
profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook 2007
failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened it and
removed
the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST files. An
accurate account of your problem would be helpful in sorting this out.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I took
your
and
sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost file and
now i
can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to your
question I was removing the pst data files that were associated with my
profile through the mail interface in control panel.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new
profile
from scratch.
Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in message
...
I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to
upgrade.
It
migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is actually
the
beta
2
that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a new
ability.


"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

No.
Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you did
to
migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Brent Mills" wrote in
message
...
I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to
archive
my
older
mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try and
open
the
program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
problem.
Anyone
else had similar issues?

Or not using Beta software and expecting it to work.

--�
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Brent Mills asked:

| Ok, I couldn't remember if it used ost files or not. I'll let you
| tell our server administrators that we can't use pst files so we need
| more space on the server. It seems you view me as an idiotic user
| that doesn't know what I'm doing. I personally don't care what you
| think of me but I'm not sure how you equate this with user error. If
| I try to use outlook after the beta installation is complete it
| crashes. If I create a different profile and use a blank ost file
| then it will let me use my pst files and doesn't crash. At least one
| other person has the same issue. If I knew why this was I would
| probably be working for microsoft.
|
| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Dead wrong. Offline Exchange content has always been stored in OST
|| files, never PST files. Most Exchange administrators do not even
|| want PST files in their users' profiles.
|| You need to understand what you're doing and what you're saying.
|| Once you do, if you think you have a beta issue, post it clearly and
|| accurately. This looks like end user error that has nothing to do
|| with the beta. --
|| Russ Valentine
|| [MVP-Outlook]
|| "Brent Mills" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Just to clarify, I do mean ost files. I think outlook 2003 used
||| pst files to
||| store offline exchange content (plz correct me if I'm wrong) but
||| 2007 seems
||| to use an ost file for this purpose.
|||
||| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| I assume you mean PST files, not OST files.
|||| So let me get this straight. You did an in place upgrade of an
|||| Outlook 2003
|||| profile that had 3 PST files, one default, 2 for archive. Outlook
|||| 2007 failed to open with no error message, yet you somehow opened
|||| it and removed
|||| the 2 archive PST files. I'm having trouble following your post.
|||| Outlook 2007 is uniquely poor at handling connections to PST
|||| files. An accurate account of your problem would be helpful in
|||| sorting this out. --
|||| Russ Valentine
|||| [MVP-Outlook]
|||| "Brent Mills" wrote in
|||| message ...
||||| Simkin is right, it seems to be something with the ost file. I
||||| took your
||||| and
||||| sue's suggestion and created a new mail profile with a new ost
||||| file and now i
||||| can add my old archive data files without problem. In answer to
||||| your question I was removing the pst data files that were
||||| associated with my profile through the mail interface in control
||||| panel.
|||||
||||| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| Always follow an attempt at an in place upgrade by creating a new
|||||| profile
|||||| from scratch.
|||||| Exactly what files are you "removing" and how?
|||||| --
|||||| Russ Valentine
|||||| [MVP-Outlook]
|||||| "Brent Mills" wrote in
|||||| message
|||||| ...
||||||| I had 2003 on my machine and the only choice it gave me was to
||||||| upgrade.
||||||| It
||||||| migrated all my settings and data files itself. This is
||||||| actually the
||||||| beta
||||||| 2
||||||| that was posted to msdn yesterday so I don't know if this is a
||||||| new ability.
|||||||
|||||||
||||||| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|||||||
|||||||| No.
|||||||| Why would you "upgrade" to a beta? State more clearly what you
|||||||| did to
|||||||| migrate your Outlook data to a beta installation.
|||||||| --
|||||||| Russ Valentine
|||||||| [MVP-Outlook]
|||||||| "Brent Mills" wrote in
|||||||| message
|||||||| ...
||||||||| I had outlook 2003 set up on my computer with 2 pst files to
||||||||| archive
||||||||| my
||||||||| older
||||||||| mail to. When I upgraded to 2007 it now locks up when I try
||||||||| and open
||||||||| the
||||||||| program. If I remove my pst archives then it runs without a
||||||||| problem.
||||||||| Anyone
||||||||| else had similar issues?