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When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a
new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should
only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not
remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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FWIW, this would never be a method for restoring a corrupted PST file.
Importing never restores data. It changes it, as you have proven once again. If you need to restore a damaged PST file that IRT can't fix, create a new PST and copy the data you need from the old to the new. Never use import. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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This is contrary to what I've been told by at least 15 reps at Microsoft over
the years prior to the export when I was dealing with the corruption. Anyway, it doesn't matter at this point, that act was taken 1-2 years ago. There is no going back. Now I am just looking for insight into the strange behavior of the import imposing styles on the notes field. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: FWIW, this would never be a method for restoring a corrupted PST file. Importing never restores data. It changes it, as you have proven once again. If you need to restore a damaged PST file that IRT can't fix, create a new PST and copy the data you need from the old to the new. Never use import. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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so you are working with an export/import that occurred over 2 yrs ago? What
version of outlook were you using at the time? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... This is contrary to what I've been told by at least 15 reps at Microsoft over the years prior to the export when I was dealing with the corruption. Anyway, it doesn't matter at this point, that act was taken 1-2 years ago. There is no going back. Now I am just looking for insight into the strange behavior of the import imposing styles on the notes field. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: FWIW, this would never be a method for restoring a corrupted PST file. Importing never restores data. It changes it, as you have proven once again. If you need to restore a damaged PST file that IRT can't fix, create a new PST and copy the data you need from the old to the new. Never use import. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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I was on Office 2007. The export/import occurred very shortly after Office
2007 was released. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: so you are working with an export/import that occurred over 2 yrs ago? What version of outlook were you using at the time? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... This is contrary to what I've been told by at least 15 reps at Microsoft over the years prior to the export when I was dealing with the corruption. Anyway, it doesn't matter at this point, that act was taken 1-2 years ago. There is no going back. Now I am just looking for insight into the strange behavior of the import imposing styles on the notes field. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: FWIW, this would never be a method for restoring a corrupted PST file. Importing never restores data. It changes it, as you have proven once again. If you need to restore a damaged PST file that IRT can't fix, create a new PST and copy the data you need from the old to the new. Never use import. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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I understand. Just remember that PSS can tell you how things are _supposed_
to work. Microsoft has always imagined that it's import functionality works. End users will tell how they actually do work. These groups are replete with import mishaps. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... This is contrary to what I've been told by at least 15 reps at Microsoft over the years prior to the export when I was dealing with the corruption. Anyway, it doesn't matter at this point, that act was taken 1-2 years ago. There is no going back. Now I am just looking for insight into the strange behavior of the import imposing styles on the notes field. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: FWIW, this would never be a method for restoring a corrupted PST file. Importing never restores data. It changes it, as you have proven once again. If you need to restore a damaged PST file that IRT can't fix, create a new PST and copy the data you need from the old to the new. Never use import. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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Like Diane, followed your instructions in detail but also couldn't repro the
problem using Outlook's export/import process. Also did the export/import multiple times with formatted and unformatted Notes data to and from both CSV DOS and Windows file types. In every case, all worked as expected so would seem that there is some missing details. Since import/export topics are of special interest for obvious reasons, did you provide Microsoft any additional details that were not provided in your post on how to repro the problem?(i.e. settings) What bug "exactly" did Microsoft acknowledge vis-a-vis the "styles" issue? Just seems strange that Microsoft seems to be able to repro the issue at will but Diane and I can't if we're all working from the same info. For whatever little else it's worth - there has never been a single similar problem reported for data that ContactGenie programs have imported which has involved a fair bit of importing over the years by a lot of different people across all versions of Outlook. Out of curiousity, is this something that you can replicate on different machines or just the one you're currently using? Karl __________________________________________________ _ Karl Timmermans - The Claxton Group ContactGenie - Importer 1.3 / DataPorter 2.0 / Exporter "Power contact importers/exporters for MS Outlook '2000/2007" http://www.contactgenie.com "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When I did it 2 years ago it would because of pst corruption that was not remedied by scanpst. I have an absurdly large rolodex with over 10K contacts so this is sort of a major deal that it changed all my notes. Not sure why you are not able to reproduce. Microsoft was on a call with me today and they were able to reproduce. I would attach before and after if I could. "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" wrote: Why are you exporting to CSV only to import back into outlook? You should only export when you need it in a different format. I can't repro it - everything looks fine here. In tools, options, mail format, stationery and fonts, do you have arial selected? -- Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Outlook Tips by email: EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange: You can access this newsgroup by visiting http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...s/default.mspx or point your newsreader to msnews.microsoft.com. "Tier 3 Questions" wrote in message ... When exporting contacts from Outlook 2007 to CSV and importing back into a new PST or folder, the import does some very strange things to the notes field. Try a test, just create 1 contact. 1. In the notes field, enter a couple lines of text, seperated by a carriage return. 2. A couple lines down, Type "Bulleted List" and then on the next three lines enter the bullets "bullet 1," "bullet 2," and "bullet 3." 3. Last, another couple lines down, type "Numbered List" and again, on the following 3 lines, "number 1," "number 2," and "number 3. 4. Now export to CSV and then import into a new folder. If your Outlook behaves the way mine does, it will actually apply unwanted styles (I know, I didn't know that styles existed in Outlook either, I thought it was just a Word thing). For those unfamiliar with Styles, this is preset font, size, color, paragraph size, etc. And it applies it in an way that does not seem to make any sense. I notified Microsof of the problem the first month that 2007 was released, they acknowledged the bug and here we are about 2 years later and the problem still exists. Does anyone have any insight into this problem? Specifically, I'd like to at least return the styles to the default arial 10. Can it be done through some style sheets somewhere, some normal.doc, some alternate export/import approach? Even better, if there is a location where these style settings reside, I'd like to modify them. Unfortunately, the styles for each contact seem to be sometimes related to one another and other times unrelated, so there are at least multiple places where these contact notes styles are stored. |
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