Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the (Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version of the form is in use.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message ...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to "Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version of
the form is in use.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are supposed to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form. Add the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message ...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to "Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

Sue,

I'm not familiar with the adding the Message Class property to a view and I
can't seem to find anything in the online help. Can you give me a push in
the right direction?

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are supposed
to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form. Add
the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check
this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there
is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to
"Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version
of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to
go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original
folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan
the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

To add any field to a table view, right-click the column headings at the top, choose Field Chooser. Use the All * Fields list for that type of folder. Drag the Message Class field to the column headings.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message ...
Sue,

I'm not familiar with the adding the Message Class property to a view and I
can't seem to find anything in the online help. Can you give me a push in
the right direction?

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are supposed
to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form. Add
the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.


"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check
this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there
is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to
"Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version
of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to
go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original
folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan
the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn

Sue,

Great tip, I added the Message Class field and that showed which form
version was used to add each record. Then it occured to me that I just
needed to re-associate the older form with the folders and now we can move
or copy records at will.

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
To add any field to a table view, right-click the column headings at the
top, choose Field Chooser. Use the All * Fields list for that type of
folder. Drag the Message Class field to the column headings.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Sue,

I'm not familiar with the adding the Message Class property to a view and
I
can't seem to find anything in the online help. Can you give me a push in
the right direction?

Thanks,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
Your eyeballs are better than mine, since you know what fields are
supposed
to be there.

I bet the problem items in the other folder are using a different form.
Add
the Message Class property to the view to confirm that.


"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
I took your advice and changed the version number of the form and
re-published it. I can see that both directories are using the same form
version.

I can add records to both folders and fill in all the fields so I don't
believe there are any missing fields. Is there a better way to check
this?

Yes, when I look at the properties of the folder, on the Forms tab there
is
a section called: "Allow these forms in this folder." and it is set to
"Only
forms listsed above."

But no change in the behavior.
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
One or the other folder probably might not have all the field definitions
based on your description. Also, is it restricted to a particular form?

Be sure when you publish that you increment the version number on the
(Properties) page. That makes it infinitely easier to know which version
of
the form is in use.

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Ok, I think I've isolated my problem.
Here's what I did:
1.) Created a custom form with user defined fields and created views to
go
along with it.
2.) Applied these new forms and views to a subfolder of the original.
3.) Added some records based on this form to the original folder.
4.) Modified the custom form, adding a new value to a drop down list of
a
custom field.
5.) Published this to both folders.
6.) Added more records to the original folder based on the updated form.

Now I find that if I want to move or copy records from the original
folder
to the subfolder that only the newest records, based on the current form
design, will move or copy. If I try to copy the other records, based on
the
original form design, I get an error message about the how the operation
can't be completed that the original record may have been moved or
deleted.

Question is then, is this normal? Should I expect to basically orphan
the
original records? Is there any kind of work around? Am I barking up
the
wrong tree? Should this have been posted in a new thread?

Thanks much,
Linn

"Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
File | Folder | Copy Folder Design. It doesn't copy custom field
definitions, though. Do them manually.

Or just copy the entire folder.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003
http://www.turtleflock.com/olconfig/index.htm
and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

"Linn Kubler" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm using OL 2003 with an Exchange backend. We are using public
folders
and
I created custom views and forms for a calendar folder. Now I'd like
to
create another folder similar to this other one but I'd like to save
myself
some time. I can easily use the forms I created for the original
folder
but
I can't seem to figure out how to import the custom views. Any
suggestions?
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance,
Linn