Hi all,

In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and Addresses
shown up;
But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new contact,
you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field chooser
and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

Is this supposed to be?
(Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)

I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly
different from the unmodified standard form; see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
Addresses
shown up;
But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
contact,
you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field chooser
and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

Is this supposed to be?
(Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)

Sorry that I still did not state my questions clearly.

If you create the new default contact from your outlook, you will see the
all phones field (such as business, home...) group together with Phone
Numbers header. (I tried to use that link to show what I mean and nothing is
related to my issue.)

But, If I customized the contact's the first page, I do not see the Phone
Numbers header show up. Is this supposed to be?

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your outlook,
you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...) group together
with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make Phone Numbers header to
appear in the contact even if I do not see it in the design mode?

Thank you.


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly
different from the unmodified standard form; see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
Addresses
shown up;
But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
contact,
you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field chooser
and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

Is this supposed to be?
(Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)



.

Repeating: If you modify the first page of the contact form, the design will
be significantly different from the unmodified standard form. This is the
way the contact form works.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
Sorry that I still did not state my questions clearly.

If you create the new default contact from your outlook, you will see the
all phones field (such as business, home...) group together with Phone
Numbers header. (I tried to use that link to show what I mean and nothing
is
related to my issue.)

But, If I customized the contact's the first page, I do not see the Phone
Numbers header show up. Is this supposed to be?

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
outlook,
you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...) group
together
with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make Phone Numbers header
to
appear in the contact even if I do not see it in the design mode?

Thank you.


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be
significantly
different from the unmodified standard form; see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21

"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
Addresses
shown up;
But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
contact,
you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field
chooser
and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

Is this supposed to be?
(Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)



.

In article ,
=?Utf-8?B?ZWQ=?= wrote:
See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

What you are seeing in that image opposite the blue legend of phone
numbers is the drop-down list box of the choices for the "File as:"
field. It truly has nothing to do with phone numbers or possible choices
for them and will not appear in the design mode unless you expand the
properties of the "File as:" field.

What Sue is trying to tell you, when she says "but if you modify the
first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly
different from the unmodified standard form", is that, if you make any
custom changes to the first page of the contact form, you are likely to
break the automatic formatting of some of fields. The first to break is
phone field formatting. Less likely is web urls, and time formatting can
also go. My standard advice for custom form design is to put all your
customization on an empty back page of the form and then hide the
standard pages if you want your page to be the first thing the user sees.

But, you mis-interpreted that image from the page you quoted, and need to
re-think what you are trying to create.

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
outlook, you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...)
group together with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make
Phone Numbers header to appear in the contact even if I do not see it in
the design mode?"

What you need to realize is that there is private code and private
variables what run to make the Outlook Contact Inspector appear as it
does. You cannot change those features. The Phone Numbers header is one
of those run-time features that you can not control or bring into the
design mode workbench. Microsoft lets you change many features in an
outlook form, but not the basic structure that ensures that Outlook will
always be able to bring it up in the familiar format.


--
Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA

Sorry and Apologize! I guess that there was a problem with the Discussion
Group, I could not see my posts and that's why I posted several times.

THANK YOU!

"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

Repeating: If you modify the first page of the contact form, the design will
be significantly different from the unmodified standard form. This is the
way the contact form works.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Microsoft Outlook 2007 Programming:
Jumpstart for Power Users and Administrators
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=54


"ed" wrote in message
...
Sorry that I still did not state my questions clearly.

If you create the new default contact from your outlook, you will see the
all phones field (such as business, home...) group together with Phone
Numbers header. (I tried to use that link to show what I mean and nothing
is
related to my issue.)

But, If I customized the contact's the first page, I do not see the Phone
Numbers header show up. Is this supposed to be?

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
outlook,
you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...) group
together
with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make Phone Numbers header
to
appear in the contact even if I do not see it in the design mode?

Thank you.


"Sue Mosher [MVP]" wrote:

I have no idea what that article has to do with your issue, but if you
modify the first page of the contact form, the design will be
significantly
different from the unmodified standard form; see
http://www.outlookcode.com/article.aspx?id=21

"ed" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

In the default contact design mode, I do not see Phone Numbers and
Addresses
shown up;
But, when you click new contact icon from Outlook to create the new
contact,
you see the Phone Numbers before Busness, Home;Busniess Fax;Mobile; and
Addresses before Busness; It's the seperator or group ????

See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

If I customize the contact form and just add any field from field
chooser
and run the form and do not see the Phone Numbers shown up?

Is this supposed to be?
(Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003)



.




.

THANK YOU!

"Hollis Paul" wrote:

In article ,
=?Utf-8?B?ZWQ=?= wrote:
See what I mean and check
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/p...cle.asp?ID=602
in the middle of article and Alan Forbes conatct (Phone Numbers before
Business..)

What you are seeing in that image opposite the blue legend of phone
numbers is the drop-down list box of the choices for the "File as:"
field. It truly has nothing to do with phone numbers or possible choices
for them and will not appear in the design mode unless you expand the
properties of the "File as:" field.

What Sue is trying to tell you, when she says "but if you modify the
first page of the contact form, the design will be significantly
different from the unmodified standard form", is that, if you make any
custom changes to the first page of the contact form, you are likely to
break the automatic formatting of some of fields. The first to break is
phone field formatting. Less likely is web urls, and time formatting can
also go. My standard advice for custom form design is to put all your
customization on an empty back page of the form and then hide the
standard pages if you want your page to be the first thing the user sees.

But, you mis-interpreted that image from the page you quoted, and need to
re-think what you are trying to create.

Interestingly, if you are in the contact's design mode, I do not see the
Phone Numbers header. But, when you create the new contact from your
outlook, you can see the all phones field (such as business, home...)
group together with Phone Numbers header. I do not know how to make
Phone Numbers header to appear in the contact even if I do not see it in
the design mode?"

What you need to realize is that there is private code and private
variables what run to make the Outlook Contact Inspector appear as it
does. You cannot change those features. The Phone Numbers header is one
of those run-time features that you can not control or bring into the
design mode workbench. Microsoft lets you change many features in an
outlook form, but not the basic structure that ensures that Outlook will
always be able to bring it up in the familiar format.


--
Hollis Paul
Mukilteo, WA USA


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