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Old December 29th 06, 02:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Mark Priem
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Hi there!

I'm having a really strange issue.

A client of mine uses a vb6 application to send out emails using
methods provided by the msmapi32.ocx activeX component. They
implemented the outlook security template ages ago and added the
credentials of the account running the application to it, to allow it
to send out emails and access the address book.
Now all of a sudden (I also get the chivers when someone sais that) the
object model guard of outlook is blocking the sending it out of emails.
I checked the code and it uses the MapiSession control to logon to an
existing outlook profile (using Logon() method). It then uses the
MapiMessages control to send out the emails (using Send() method). The
mails are "SEND AS" the mailboxes in the mailprofile. These are
disabled useraccounts with mailbox, which are also added to the
template.

I checked the client registry for the existence of the CheckAdminSettings
DWORD. It exists at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Secu rity
and when I open the users mailprofile using outlook it has the
"Administrator/User controlled" security mode set. (I also checked the other
profiles that are used in the vb program)

The strange thing is that the pop-up only appears when more than 3 messages
are being sent out.

I created a vbscript using the MAPI.Session and MAPI.Messages COM objects
and when I use the users own profile, it works. When I use another profile it
doesn't.

All profiles use online mode exchange and have their mailbox as the default
location for maildelivery.

Any ideas???
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Old December 29th 06, 02:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]
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Default Outlook object model guard

FWIW I've never heard of Administrator/User controlled. It's default, user
or administrator.

If it used to work and doesn't now, what changed?

What happens if you set up new profiles and try that?

It's no comfort but I've never heard of the object model guard kicking in
after 3 messages but allowing the first ones through. Just on the off
chance, did that machine recently update IE to IE7?

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"Mark Priem" wrote in message
...
Hi there!

I'm having a really strange issue.

A client of mine uses a vb6 application to send out emails using
methods provided by the msmapi32.ocx activeX component. They
implemented the outlook security template ages ago and added the
credentials of the account running the application to it, to allow it
to send out emails and access the address book.
Now all of a sudden (I also get the chivers when someone sais that) the
object model guard of outlook is blocking the sending it out of emails.
I checked the code and it uses the MapiSession control to logon to an
existing outlook profile (using Logon() method). It then uses the
MapiMessages control to send out the emails (using Send() method). The
mails are "SEND AS" the mailboxes in the mailprofile. These are
disabled useraccounts with mailbox, which are also added to the
template.

I checked the client registry for the existence of the CheckAdminSettings
DWORD. It exists at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Secu rity
and when I open the users mailprofile using outlook it has the
"Administrator/User controlled" security mode set. (I also checked the
other
profiles that are used in the vb program)

The strange thing is that the pop-up only appears when more than 3
messages
are being sent out.

I created a vbscript using the MAPI.Session and MAPI.Messages COM objects
and when I use the users own profile, it works. When I use another profile
it
doesn't.

All profiles use online mode exchange and have their mailbox as the
default
location for maildelivery.

Any ideas???


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Old December 29th 06, 03:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
mpriem
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Default Outlook object model guard

I checked several workstations here and they all have
"administrator/user controlled" as security mode when opening [HELP]
[About....].

I recreated the user profiles and tested it, but without luck. Also IE7
is not installed.

The security template is working. I tested it by adding/removing users
from the template en reposting it.

Are there any other settings that can interfere with the security
settings for outlook (GPO's for example)????

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Old December 29th 06, 04:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]
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Default Outlook object model guard

I know nothing about GPO's.

The real question is what changed? If it worked before and stopped working
then something must have changed, either on the server or on the client.
Check for any recent updates, any new software installed and make sure that
you don't have any incoming/outgoing email anti-virus scanning going on in
Outlook.

That's about all I can think of. The symptoms and problems are new to me and
I can't find anything about them by googling either, so you might just have
to open a support incident with MS PSS after the holidays and see what they
can turn up about the problem.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"mpriem" wrote in message
ups.com...
I checked several workstations here and they all have
"administrator/user controlled" as security mode when opening [HELP]
[About....].

I recreated the user profiles and tested it, but without luck. Also IE7
is not installed.

The security template is working. I tested it by adding/removing users
from the template en reposting it.

Are there any other settings that can interfere with the security
settings for outlook (GPO's for example)????


  #5  
Old January 2nd 07, 09:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
mpriem
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Default Outlook object model guard

I cannot think of anything that has changed. The mailboxes where move a
few days earlier, but the problem did not occur immidiate after those
moves. Could that be the issue?
There was also a patchingcycle the day before. All patches have been
removed, but still the problem persisted. I'll try to contact MS

Thanks Ken, for you help!


Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook] schreef:

I know nothing about GPO's.

The real question is what changed? If it worked before and stopped working
then something must have changed, either on the server or on the client.
Check for any recent updates, any new software installed and make sure that
you don't have any incoming/outgoing email anti-virus scanning going on in
Outlook.

That's about all I can think of. The symptoms and problems are new to me and
I can't find anything about them by googling either, so you might just have
to open a support incident with MS PSS after the holidays and see what they
can turn up about the problem.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"mpriem" wrote in message
ups.com...
I checked several workstations here and they all have
"administrator/user controlled" as security mode when opening [HELP]
[About....].

I recreated the user profiles and tested it, but without luck. Also IE7
is not installed.

The security template is working. I tested it by adding/removing users
from the template en reposting it.

Are there any other settings that can interfere with the security
settings for outlook (GPO's for example)????


  #6  
Old January 2nd 07, 03:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.outlook.program_vba
Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]
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Default Outlook object model guard

Moved mailboxes could be a problem. The SID's for the moved mailboxes will
have changed. I'd remove the old entries for those mailboxes and re-add the
mailboxes you want. If that doesn't help I'm out of ideas.

--
Ken Slovak
[MVP - Outlook]
http://www.slovaktech.com
Author: Absolute Beginner's Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm


"mpriem" wrote in message
oups.com...
I cannot think of anything that has changed. The mailboxes where move a
few days earlier, but the problem did not occur immidiate after those
moves. Could that be the issue?
There was also a patchingcycle the day before. All patches have been
removed, but still the problem persisted. I'll try to contact MS

Thanks Ken, for you help!


 




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